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Unread 01-28-2011, 12:16 PM   #4751
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Pretty sure this whole thing is going to be hilariously fruitless.

Mostly because what we know is that:
1) Dreamselves have to be alive for that to work. While Dream!kanaya and Dream!tavros aren't explicitly dead, they're implied to be, and Tavs in particular seemed pretty convinced his dreamself was gone.
2) There is a very short timeframe for that sort of revival to work because wounds inflicted on the Awake!self are also inflicted on the Dream!self. Notice how when John got stabbed, blood pooled on his shirt before he hit god tier. Kanaya might have a chance (aside from the next point), but I suspect Dream!Tavros (if he's alive) is now in several more pieces than he used to be.

EDIT: I stand corrected on the prince/princess thing but I maintain my position on its irrelevance.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 12:16 PM   #4752
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Unread 01-28-2011, 12:21 PM   #4753
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She's also, SEEING his blood, however that works.

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I meant to quote this earlier, but holy fuck this thing moves fast.

On Tavros and Vriska:
Vriska, from the looks of it, has been antagonizing Tavros since forever because she can't get over how he acts - unsure, nervous and/or just wimpish in general. That much is clear. The crippling seemed to me like a more symbolic thing, because he himself seems to believe that he's unable to do things on his own as his only source of confidence is imaginary. By the time he tries to fight back, he got the robo-legs, which also strike me as symbolic of him being able to stand on his own feet. He's still a wimp, but he's finally trying to get better...But of course, fighting Vriska wasn't a smart thing to do.

Vriska is a bitch, yes, but amidst all of that bitchyness there are some good intentions SOMETIMES.

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3) The "kissing them awake" thing requires a Prince or Princess.

Yup. So unless Karkles and/or Terezi have some sort of royal heritage we don't know about, this whole thing is just going to end in the word "BLUH" and some poor drawings.
They are all princes/princesses of Derse or Prospit, remember?
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Unread 01-28-2011, 12:31 PM   #4754
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3) The "kissing them awake" thing requires a Prince or Princess.

Yup. So unless Karkles and/or Terezi have some sort of royal heritage we don't know about, this whole thing is just going to end in the word "BLUH" and some poor drawings.
Even ignoring what Ryong said (it's on the previous formspring somewhere), this is ridiculous. Why on earth would Karkat and Terezi even attempt this if they weren't absolutely certain they were qualified for the job?
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Unread 01-28-2011, 12:37 PM   #4755
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They are all princes/princesses of Derse or Prospit, remember?
Yeah this is pretty much a thing that everyone in the game knows, why is there still any discussion or doubt?

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2) There is a very short timeframe for that sort of revival to work because wounds inflicted on the Awake!self are also inflicted on the Dream!self. Notice how when John got stabbed, blood pooled on his shirt before he hit god tier. Kanaya might have a chance (aside from the next point), but I suspect Dream!Tavros (if he's alive) is now in several more pieces than he used to be.
Fef revived Sollux some time after he got Glub'd
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Unread 01-28-2011, 12:43 PM   #4756
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Yeah this is pretty much a thing that everyone in the game knows, why is there still any discussion or doubt?
TBH, there's a fucking ton of things to keep track of at all times.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 12:51 PM   #4757
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Fef revived Sollux some time after he got Glub'd
Yeah. The sympathetic wounds are delayed and slowed

If Dream Tavros was still alive when Tavros Prime attacked Vriska, then he's probably still alive, but Terezi sort of was operating on a pretty short timer to get the kiss done.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 03:37 PM   #4758
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In Alterniabound when you talk to Tavros as Karkat, Karkat says he told Tavros to look at the "Demon" (Bec Noir), but that he was too busy sKY FROLICKING and didn't hear him, so there is a slight chance Dream Tavros was simply blown away by Bec Noir's attack (either out into the empty bits of the Incipisphere or to the Battlefield, doesn't really matter). As for Kanaya I don't think anything has been directly said regarding her dream self, other than the obvious "Prospit blew up, all our dream selves are dead" stuff.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 04:01 PM   #4759
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I think Tavros is the only one with even a slight chance.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 04:13 PM   #4760
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If there is a gog in heaven, Tavros will be brought back to life only to immediately be killed by Gamzee.

EDIT: Yeah, this works, I guess. (Kanaya, noooo)

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