Damn, Bethesda Knows How To Make An Involving Game

[Rokrin]

Originally Posted by Harpell

Bingo. Anywhere would work though.

Heehee. I just downloaded and installed the Deadly Reflex mod. Dear God, I'm entertained by this. My only real complaint is the samurai-movie style high-pressure blood that throat-slitting invokes. And thats not a serious complaint, I just think it's slightly odd. Anyway, awesome mod.

I don't really mind the high-pressure blood except that it tends to attract attention...so it's better to slit throats at night. But yeah it's an enjoyable mod.

Skyrim would actually be pretty cool. I'd like Bethesda to do something where they release like a freeware expansion for Oblivion that does a tie-in to whatever the Skyrim plot is. It won't happen but...I like freeware expansions. :p

[Kerensky287]

Originally Posted by Seil

I'm in Chor... Cho.... The place with a really, really big oak tree, and all of the beggars love me. They're all like "Head to the Oak and Crosier," and I do, and everybody there likes me, but no one will let me in to their guild.

What the hell. The guild probably sucks, anyway.

I forget how I did the quest, but don't you actually have to steal something first? I think jailtime is involved too.

Also, I'm fairly certain the entrance quest is in Imperial City.

[Rokrin]

Originally Posted by Kerensky287

I forget how I did the quest, but don't you actually have to steal something first? I think jailtime is involved too.

Also, I'm fairly certain the entrance quest is in Imperial City.

And of course, really sneaky thieves tend to be around at midnight...

No hints though of course.

[MFD]

The Thieves' Guild doesn't have a hall near the other Guild Halls. When they mention that the Guild Halls are somewhere (near the Oak and Crosier in Chorrol), they're talking about the Fighters' Guild and the Mages' Guild.

So, go into one of the buildings there... I think a sign is out front.

[Rokrin]

For those that are displeased with Guard behavior in Oblivion, this seems to work. And it plays nicely with most mods.

[DFM]

Originally Posted by ironymaster

Well the reason some like oblivion is because some people like pretty things...

Paintings are pretty.


As for Seil's problem this is step by step exactly what and all you have to do to join the thieves guild:



1. Be in the Imperial City

2. Bribe any beggar until they like you.

3. Ask about Grey Fox

4. Go where he tells you when he tells you. (Behind the first house on the far side of the waterfront district at midnight)

5. Do the quest. Just follow Me-something, the female wood elf. She'll go right to it and once you're in the building all you have to do is sprint past her and grab the diary from the desk.



There is no jailtime or (non-quest) stealing involved in joining and there is no guild hall to go to, they do not have a guild hall at all unless you count the one you get for them at the end. So there you go.

[Rokrin]

Fuck.

I forgot how long it takes to load everything to need for FCOM...

[Melfice]

There is no jailtime or (non-quest) stealing involved in joining and there is no guild hall to go to

That's the alternative recruitment/introduction path, actually.
You steal something, get caught, do the time and when you're out some guy will be seeing you about joining the Thieves' Guild.

Why they want a guy who is obviously bad enough at stealing that he gets caught inducted into a guild that's, supposedly, about stealing stuff without getting caught is beyond me as well, but that's the way Bethesda said it should work.

[DFM]

Well, shit.

Guess I didn't suck enough to find out.

*air guitars*

[Pip Boy]

I think I went a little overboard with my mage character. I've made a simple checklist on things to do to make yourself all-powerful.

First, join the mage's guild and work your way up in ranks until you can access the Arcane University and therefore the custom spell maker.

Make a spell (I named it Destruction Trainer) that deals 3 fire damage to self for 1 second(s). Use this spell over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Then get bored and pay your younger brother to stand there and cast this spell over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. At first it goes fast, but the last level took me about 97 casts of "Des Trainer" to level up. If you want your Willpower (Mana Regen over time Stat) stat build per level to be better, mix it with some Restoration Training. You'll want to buy training on this one since restoration takes much longer to grind than destruction.

Once your Destruction hits 100, the mana cost on all destruction spells will be dramatically lower.

After this, get some good Soul Gems. I recall that you can steal some Grand Soul Gems from the Arcane University Tower's bottom floor, in plain sight. Actually, if you've joined the guild it won't be stealing, you'll just need to get through a lock to do it.

Go and enchant a set of equipment to enhance your destruction skill. This cuts down the cost of all destruction magic spells even MORE.

Go to the Alter of Spell Making and make 3 spells. One that takes about 1/5 of your max mana with an equal balance of Fire, Lightning, and Frost damage. (If you get only one element, the Cost to Damage ratio gets worse and worse as damage increases, so if you get a bit of 3 elements you get the most power for any given amount of mana). Set it to touch. Then make a ranged one like it set to power such that it takes about 1/3 of your max mana. Then make yet another touch spell that takes about half your mana to do damage of those 3 elements over time.

Then make sure you have the "Weak Fireball" spell that you should get as a quest reward for mage guild stuff. If you don't have it for some reason, just make a 3 damage ranged fire spell with the smallest possible AOE.


From here its actually quite simple. Go around the wilderness searching through Ayelid Ruins for Welkynd stones. Put them on your hotkeys.

Run through the imperial city, flinging your almighty destruction magic at anything and everything that moves. When you run out of mana, use a welkynd stone. When everyone around is dead, remove the clothing from all of their bodies and use the Weak Fireball/Weak AOE spell to blast all of their bodies into a pile. Dance on the pile.

Congratulations, you're as twisted as BM.

EDIT: Currently my Mage character is like level 18 and he has a single freakishly powerful spell that does like 200 damage times some seconds in an AOE. The spell is called "Firagaja" and no one has ever survived it. Ever. I also got sick of not being able to see well from the default light spell and made a better version of it. Its actually very useful. I personally recommend light spells over night vision spells for any non-stealth characters, because its easier to see in light than in night vision. It also has the added advantage that it makes it easier for enemies to see me.