Dwarf Fortress - Page 5

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 12-08-2009, 02:28 PM

Holy shit I think I'm getting the hang of this shit!!! I've dug out a fortress, zoned a bedroom (containing actual beds!), created a farm (I THINK it's growing stuff...), and have massive food stores next to a bitchin' dining room!

I even have actual doors!! Now I need to figure out how to dig up and down, brew more alcohol, and start clearing out refuse. A well would also be a nice feature, and some fishing.

The only major problem I've encountered so far is water-logged rock, which I thought I'd avoided in choosing my site, but then ran immediately into. D'oh!

Thadius · 12-08-2009, 03:51 PM

Designate some stairs up (or down), build a still, and zone a refuse stockpile that is 'technically' outside so miasma doesn't become an issue. The still is going to eat through your barrel supply like candy, though, so make sure you have a carpenter's shop dedicated to building them!

A well has to be built over a source of clean water, with a chain and bucket. You also need Fisherdwarves and a fishery to fish.

'zat answer your questions?

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 12-08-2009, 04:51 PM

Well I knew how to deal with refuse anyway. The stairs is trickier, since I still can't figure out how to increase/decrease my elevation to go up and down levels. I know there's a button for it somewhere, but not sure which button or where.

Malek · 12-08-2009, 05:25 PM

If you're using the ASCII graphics, the button is the same as the character representing the stairs, namely < or >.

Loyal · 12-08-2009, 06:58 PM

AKA, shift-, to go up, shift-. to go down.

Each downward stairway has to have an up-stairway below it to match, and vice-versa. Up-down stairs, obviously, serve both at once, though you still need the apporpriate stair type on the next Z-level to make use of it.

You could also use ramps, which are functionally identical once actually placed (Exception: trade caravans cannot travel up or down stairs and must use ramps. This only makes a difference if and when you decide to put your Trade Depot indoors) but are a bit tricky to place by comparison.

Extremely important for well building: water pressure. If you want to avoid this entirely I suppose you could craft a bunch of buckets and zone a "pond" under the well site using your haulers.

I had my first Strange Mood a short time ago... Unfortunately, it was a Glassmaker and there was no sand on the map. He went mad as a result and pranced about his workshop till he died of thirst. His clothes will be sold to the next caravan.

Arhra · 12-08-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Loyal

Boatmurdered is wonderful, but I have to say Headshoots is moreso. It includes, among other things, a visit to the bowels of hell, a giant engine of magma dispension, and a dwarf running through lava to pummel a kobold to dust... with its backpack.

You forgot the bloodthirsty monument to the fallen that is TRIBUTE.

Thadius · 12-09-2009, 12:39 AM

Be fair to TRIBUTE! Half those people flung themselves into the thing to see how it worked inside. And quite a few more deaths were due to the thing not possessing a roof on some parts.

Loyal · 12-09-2009, 01:24 AM

I don't think TRIBUTEWEAPON was ever successfully fired, was it? It was the LHC of Dwarf Fortress.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 12-09-2009, 10:37 AM

Think I'm gona start over already, this Fortress is in a terrible location. If I had properly checked the elevation around this area, I would have noticed the lake on top of the mountain I tunneled directly under. All it would take is one wrong mining operation and I'll end up flooding my whole fortress. Also space is limited and I haven't properly considered my expansion options.

Looks like this fort was a fail, but fun. Least I know where I went wrong now.

Thadius · 12-09-2009, 10:17 PM

Losing is not only fun, it's also mandatory. In half of all games, it's the player's fault in some obscure way or another. Be it pissing off the elves, digging too deep, or failing to take proper precautions for when the volcano you settled next to erupts, it is your fault.

The only way it isn't your fault is if a megabeast shows up.

12-08-2009, 03:51 PM	#42
Thadius BEARD IMPACT Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MANLY ANGER Posts: 1,977	Designate some stairs up (or down), build a still, and zone a refuse stockpile that is 'technically' outside so miasma doesn't become an issue. The still is going to eat through your barrel supply like candy, though, so make sure you have a carpenter's shop dedicated to building them! A well has to be built over a source of clean water, with a chain and bucket. You also need Fisherdwarves and a fishery to fish. 'zat answer your questions? __________________ ANGER HAS NEVER BEEN MORE MANLY THAN THIS.

12-09-2009, 12:39 AM	#47
Thadius BEARD IMPACT Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MANLY ANGER Posts: 1,977	Be fair to TRIBUTE! Half those people flung themselves into the thing to see how it worked inside. And quite a few more deaths were due to the thing not possessing a roof on some parts. __________________ ANGER HAS NEVER BEEN MORE MANLY THAN THIS.

12-09-2009, 10:17 PM	#50
Thadius BEARD IMPACT Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MANLY ANGER Posts: 1,977	Losing is not only fun, it's also mandatory. In half of all games, it's the player's fault in some obscure way or another. Be it pissing off the elves, digging too deep, or failing to take proper precautions for when the volcano you settled next to erupts, it is your fault. The only way it isn't your fault is if a megabeast shows up. __________________ ANGER HAS NEVER BEEN MORE MANLY THAN THIS.

12-08-2009, 05:25 PM	#44
Malek Shyguy Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 119	If you're using the ASCII graphics, the button is the same as the character representing the stairs, namely < or >.