Nice guys finish last?

[Premmy]

Yeah in my area every girl yes every girl thats an exact number wants a thug
and every three out of four guys is a thug head at a forty five degree angle and all
the other thug qualities but not me Supposedly I'm cute but thats only good for three minutes of flirting then,"oooh HEY JAMAL!,scuse me Clarence" and i do generally care about people when theyre hurt and i know it must just be that theyre immature it has to otherwise I'm screwed but for right now thing kinda suck for me so I am just waitin till I come up with a solution and yes I am outgoing

[RaiRai]

Premonitions - can you try and add some punctuation into your posts? That made for a very complicated read. And I doubt its 'EVERY' girl that wants a thug. That's making a generalisation which is probably why you're having no luck with the ladies. We don't like to be catagorised. We don't like assumptions being made of us.

I'm still surprised this thread is continuing based on guys having little luck with girls. YOU NEED MORE BALLS. Get out there and make yourselves known, not sit at your desk whining about it on an online forum. (We can't see you behind that computer monitor unless you've got a webcam shoved in your face.)

[Lockeownzj00]

Gonna have to agree with Rai here. Krylo already did an awesome job...being awesome on the first page in this thread, about three posts down, saying everything that needed to be said, really.

Once, I felt victimised.

Then, I realised I was totally going on a pity trip for the wrong reasons. I don't know if it has to do with charisma or what--but I feel absolutely 100% comfortable with women at this stage in my life. Since I consider myself a (obviously male) feminist, I also question these generalisations. They're the kind of bad ones made on comedy central that everyone laughs at but actually believes. DL Hughely, anyone?

[Mirai Gen]

I don't think this is really going anywhere to a major degree. I mean, this rant is sounding like "I'm a nice guy, why can't girls fuck the shit out of me for the considerate, compassionate man that I am? I don't get laid, and women are all fridgid bitches. Damn them for not screwing me, the nice guy."

For christ's sake, guys who complain about nice guys finishing last in love obviously are the basement-DND geeks who are too shy to talk to anyone. All women really want, REALLY what they want to start a relationship is for you to TALK to them, goddamnit, and any psychiatrist or relationship expert etc etc etc. will agree, get some testicles between your legs and BE BRAVE.

I mean, hell, my girlfriend and I get along great, with or without sex, and we both agree we'd just rather wait until 'the time', which can be whenever.

[Gineko]

I only got to read the first rant (2nd got the "this page cannot be displayed"), but I think the author's a twit.

First of all, as alot of people have said already, if he was such a nice guy, he wouldn't be bitching and complaining because, oh noes, he has to listen to his friend ask for advice about what she should do about her boyfriend. If he was such a nice guy, he would be thinking of how she feels instead of moaning about how he can't get into her pants. If he was such a nice guy, he would be the friend that the girl trusts him to be, and do something to help her, not write articles behind her back about what bitches she and other women are.

My dad gave me a book, its called "Guys will put you on a Pedistal (so they can look up your skirt)" that has a quote which I think sums up that article perfectly: Guys use love to get sex, girls use sex to find love. It means that alot of guys will be like whoever wrote that article; he writes like he doesnt care about her but pretends he does in the hopes that he will get to have sex with her. But the girl is going out with the other guy hoping she can change him into someone she will love.

There is a true story in the book, about a party at one guys house. One of the girls there is very open about not wanting to be in a relationship with anyone, so two guys make a bet to see which one can get the farthest sexually with her while getting her drunk, and they judge it by bases. First base is kissing, second is up her shirt, third is a hand in her pants, home is sex. Neither of them felt anything for her, they were the assholes, but luckily the guy who was running the party was a true nice guy, and he kicked the guys out and told the girl what they were doing, and then calmed her down and drove her home.

Instead of bitching and complaining that she was crying on his shoulder and that he wasn't the one getting into her pants, he helped her and did what a nice guy would do. Nice guys do not finish last because they are slowest in the race, it's because they stop to help others on the way to the finish line, and that is how they win.

[ZERO.]

Dude this is true the ladies go for a holes this pisses me off cuz I am a nice guy I will care I will give a shoulder to cry on and what happens I dont even get a thanks. That is bull crap i think ladies are like cats if you give em attention they ignore you but if you ignore em they jump on ypur lap and stick there butts in your face. I was a nice guy for 6 years 6 YEARS and what did it get me a whiney girl that went for the a hole got dumped and went back to the nice guy for support .I eventually got so tired of it I just said "tell some one who cares" cuz after the thousands time she went "he dumped me i cant beleave he dumped me" you just stop giving a rats !@#.

[MasterOfMagic]

......... I dearly hope you didn't read all the earlier posts. 'Cause if you did, surely you'd see the fault in what you just said. Re-read the thread. Then read your post. See how petty it sounds?

[BitVyper]

So, if the guy's main concern is getting laid, and apparently nice guys don't get laid, why is he still being so nice? Why are any of the people who make this complaint still being nice? If you're so sure you know what the problem is, stop complaining and fix it.

[shiney]

I think, ZERO., that you should definitely re-evaluate yourself. Obviously you aren't a nice guy, you're someone who pretends to be one in hopes of getting a girl. If you were a nice guy you wouldn't sit there and bitch like a hormone-driven nerd about how shes retarded because she left you because obviously you were so perfect, or whatever the crap is going through your mind.

Six years? I find that suspect unless you started dating her when you were 12, because I don't see you as any older than 18 with an attitude like that.

[Staizer]

I wonder if "nice guys" have considered the possibility that maybe girls can't read minds? Similar to how guys can't read minds either.

Maybe the woman/women you are hanging out with would be more open to an intimate relationship if you were to say to them, "Hey, how would you like to go on a date with me?" Instead of just assuming that since you are a nice guy they will want to go out with you.

If all you do is let women cry on your shoulder, women will assume that that is all you want.

If you were to say to one of these women, "Hey, I've been listening to you complain for some amount of time now, and I have come to believe that I would be someone who could treat you better than how you have been treated. Give me a chance and we'll see how it works out."

The biggest problems come when people just don't communicate, because everyone starts making assumptions and feelings get hurt and hearts get broken. Try speaking up instead of moping and complaining.