Ultimate Marvel - Page 5

gurusloth · 10-05-2005, 01:47 AM

Actually, the whole Spidey/Shadowcat thing was only in the annual. They haven't really touched on it in the regular issues (although they should, as it was brilliant). Also, it's clear that the Black Cat believes Spidey to be much older than he actually is (as evidenced from the fact that she thinks he's married). Bet on that relationship going south as soon as she finds out.

So I guess he's destined to be with MJ. Maybe she'll go out and get superpowers so that he doesn't have to worry about her anymore...that'd be a hoot.

Elmer J. · 10-05-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gurusloth

Actually, the whole Spidey/Shadowcat thing was only in the annual. They haven't really touched on it in the regular issues (although they should, as it was brilliant). Also, it's clear that the Black Cat believes Spidey to be much older than he actually is (as evidenced from the fact that she thinks he's married). Bet on that relationship going south as soon as she finds out.

So I guess he's destined to be with MJ. Maybe she'll go out and get superpowers so that he doesn't have to worry about her anymore...that'd be a hoot.

I'm pretty sure that annuals affect the continuity. Which would make a pretty good relationship, even if it's probably doomed not to last.
I was hoping that Mary Jane would die all Gwen Stacy like, and Gwen would live...
Because who didn't love this Gwen Stacy?
And I'm sick of Mary Jane.
If you look through the dead threads to find the old spiderman 3 one, I suggested a plot where she died.
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Viktor Von Russia · 10-05-2005, 06:32 PM

Actually, I wasn't too crazy about the Ultimate version of Gwen Stacy. She was too different from the original for my tastes. But then again, the whole point of the Ultimate line is to take characters and stories in new directions and whatnot, so I guess that's ok.

NolanSpalter · 10-16-2005, 05:58 AM

But how many here can even say they knew what the original Gwen was like? She died when Superman still had the dark power of time travel. I certainly never read enough of 70s Spider Parker to say I knew her well.

Bendis is an Ultimate FOOL for killing Ultimate Gwen like he did. If I were writing the comic book that is our reality, the world would see a mob of rampaging Ben Reillys hulking out and seizing Bendis, in mob-like fashion; they would have a minor tussle with Jessica Jones, who would undoubtedly come to Bendis' aid, overcome her easily, then carry Bendis off into the horizon, where they would ULTIMATELY kill him, and we would all go back to reading JMS Spider Parker. Even though Alex Ross hates it.

Elmer J. · 10-16-2005, 03:15 PM

Bendis has said before that he will never have ultimate Spider-clones, but there is an upcoming arc called "Cone saga." I am forseeing a tricky title likes that of UFF's "Crossover." Someone's getting cloned, though. And I hope it's Gwen. And I hope Mary Jane dies. Peter and Gwen just had such better chemistry.
Better yet!
Gwen's clone actually wants to be Gwen again this time, and Pete realizes he always loved her more, so he just cruelly dumps Mary Jane, who becomes some evil, psychologically tortured villainess, THEN dies.

Hm, I really don't like Mary Jane, do I?

ElfLad · 10-16-2005, 08:33 PM

SPOILERS: highlight to read

Peter already dumped MJ in the Hobgoblin story arc. He went ballistic at her because he told her to stay away from Harry, but Harry turned into the Hobgoblin and MJ almost died and Peter felt it was too dangerous for her and he dumped her.

Fifthfiend · 10-16-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NolanSpalter

But how many here can even say they knew what the original Gwen was like? She died when Superman still had the dark power of time travel. I certainly never read enough of 70s Spider Parker to say I knew her well.

Bendis is an Ultimate FOOL for killing Ultimate Gwen like he did. If I were writing the comic book that is our reality, the world would see a mob of rampaging Ben Reillys hulking out and seizing Bendis, in mob-like fashion; they would have a minor tussle with Jessica Jones, who would undoubtedly come to Bendis' aid, overcome her easily, then carry Bendis off into the horizon, where they would ULTIMATELY kill him, and we would all go back to reading JMS Spider Parker. Even though Alex Ross hates it.

If any fictional character gets to kill Bendis, it's Hawkeye.

Elmer J. · 10-16-2005, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ElfLad

SPOILERS: highlight to read

Peter already dumped MJ in the Hobgoblin story arc. He went ballistic at her because he told her to stay away from Harry, but Harry turned into the Hobgoblin and MJ almost died and Peter felt it was too dangerous for her and he dumped her.

Yeah, but how long will that last?
I want her to DIE. Die like Uncle Ben, and original Gwen Stacy: permanently.
Actually, the original Gwen Stacy got cloned, but she didn't want to be Gwen Stacy, if I understand what I've read.
Ultimate Gwen Stacy oozed character, as far as I'm concerned. Ultimate Mary Jane just kind of fell flat, although less so than the original Mary Jane.

NolanSpalter · 10-16-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fifthfiend

If any fictional character gets to kill Bendis, it's Hawkeye.

Touche. Previous statements retracted. As long as the killing blow is dealt with a Scarlet Spider-shaped arrow.

ElfLad · 10-16-2005, 11:53 PM

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Yeah, but how long will that last?

Um... two, maybe three story arcs?

What I really want to see is at least one thing that's a polar opposite to the normal Marvelverse. I mean, if it's an alternate retelling, how come EVERYBODY has almost the exact same personality? I'd love to see, say, Ultimate X-men have at least one character that is a villain rather than hero, or human rather than mutant. That would be pretty neat.

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gurusloth Master of muthafu�%in' invisibility Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,224	Actually, the whole Spidey/Shadowcat thing was only in the annual. They haven't really touched on it in the regular issues (although they should, as it was *brilliant). Also, it's clear that the Black Cat believes Spidey to be much older than he actually is (as evidenced from the fact that she thinks he's married). Bet on that relationship going south as soon as she finds out. So I guess he's destined to be with MJ. Maybe she'll go out and get superpowers so that he doesn't have to worry about her anymore...that'd be a hoot. __________________ Mashirosen*: I personally will not rest until I have turned NPF into ___________I"My Little Pony Collector's E-Snuggle Social Club - No Boys Allowed"

10-05-2005, 06:32 PM	#43
Viktor Von Russia YOU'VE EATEN POO, HAVE YOU?! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Motherland Posts: 1,131	Actually, I wasn't too crazy about the Ultimate version of Gwen Stacy. She was too different from the original for my tastes. But then again, the whole point of the Ultimate line is to take characters and stories in new directions and whatnot, so I guess that's ok. __________________ Defeat Yanda. "God does not give to a cow that butts." Russian Saying Why don't people check for invisi-text?

10-16-2005, 03:15 PM	#45
Elmer J. Pixie's li'l Brother Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Exile! Posts: 342	Bendis has said before that he will never have ultimate Spider-clones, but there is an upcoming arc called "Cone saga." I am forseeing a tricky title likes that of UFF's "Crossover." Someone's getting cloned, though. And I hope it's Gwen. And I hope Mary Jane dies. Peter and Gwen just had such better chemistry. Better yet! Gwen's clone actually wants to be Gwen again this time, and Pete realizes he always loved her more, so he just cruelly dumps Mary Jane, who becomes some evil, psychologically tortured villainess, THEN dies. Hm, I really don't like Mary Jane, do I? __________________ Rule six: The winner will be the first team that wins.

10-16-2005, 08:33 PM	#46
ElfLad She's buying the Stairway to Heaven Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 581	SPOILERS: highlight to read Peter already dumped MJ in the Hobgoblin story arc. He went ballistic at her because he told her to stay away from Harry, but Harry turned into the Hobgoblin and MJ almost died and Peter felt it was too dangerous for her and he dumped her. __________________ Legendary: A webcomic about RPGs.

10-16-2005, 05:58 AM	#44
NolanSpalter Goomba Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13	But how many here can even say they knew what the original Gwen was like? She died when Superman still had the dark power of time travel. I certainly never read enough of 70s Spider Parker to say I knew her well. Bendis is an Ultimate FOOL for killing Ultimate Gwen like he did. If I were writing the comic book that is our reality, the world would see a mob of rampaging Ben Reillys hulking out and seizing Bendis, in mob-like fashion; they would have a minor tussle with Jessica Jones, who would undoubtedly come to Bendis' aid, overcome her easily, then carry Bendis off into the horizon, where they would ULTIMATELY kill him, and we would all go back to reading JMS Spider Parker. Even though Alex Ross hates it.