Nice Comment about how anime has gone "down hill" over the years - Page 5

Majin Darshe · 10-02-2006, 10:42 AM

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I hate Naruto and all of these other 4Kids abominations

...in all fairness, 4Kids didn't do Naruto...

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Basically it has to 1. have good animation 2. everything else follows because usually if it has good animation it means they have a good budget means they have a talented writer, artists, etc.

Revolutionary Girl Utena destroys your argument utterly.

And over the last few weeks I've beginning to realiaze a couple things about the anime fans on this board...and people seeming to go on rants and tirades about edited anime at the drop of the hat seems to be one of them. It's really boring really, because

A: As I've said before, it's not really that much of an issue anymore (I think edited manga is starting to become a more prevalent issue, although I don't think that I'll be going up in arms about it), and

B: NONE OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO SAY ABOUT IT. You just keep ranting on and on and on about it ANY time anime is mentioned! Who cares about speculating if 4Kids got Elfen Lied or FMA? They didn't! So dont worry about it!

I don't know, it just seems like everyone here is just proving what the guy I quoted at the beginning of this topic was saying about how people are starting percieve anime.

Magus · 10-02-2006, 11:36 PM

Pssh, you should at least use my whole quote where I said I liked Slayers and a few other animes that aren't of the highest animation quality. I like Record of Lodoss War, for goodness sake, most of it is STILLS.

And also for the record, I hate all the Shonen Jump animes everyone was complaining about getting edited, but I can still feel sympathy for them.

Fifthfiend · 10-02-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Majin Darshe

Revolutionary Girl Utena destroys your argument utterly.

Divergence Eve had a great animation budget, basically all of which they spent on jiggle.

I'm okay with self-important space psychodrama and ridiculously oversized boobies, it's the two of them together that kind of threw me for a loop.

Astral Harmony · 10-05-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fifthfiend

Divergence Eve had a great animation budget, basically all of which they spent on jiggle.

I'm okay with self-important space psychodrama and ridiculously oversized boobies, it's the two of them together that kind of threw me for a loop.

And what little that wasn't spent on jiggle went into the 3-D stuff.

And I totally agree with the reply.

Sesshoumaru · 10-07-2006, 03:58 PM

Elfen Lied on 4Kids would be like be watching Boondock Saints on broadcast television...(I did that once, they cut 3/4 of the scenes and 2/3 of the dialogue =/). Still, it was pretty funny to see the way they tried it...

Magus · 10-07-2006, 11:30 PM

The Pulp Fiction edit was far worse than the Boondock Saints edit (they actually managed to cut the gimp in the basement ENTIRELY OUT OF THE MOVIE. It was the most insane thing I ever saw. I have to say whoever edited it had my respect for managing it. Seriously the most hilarious thing I've seen for a long time, them managing to cut him out like that. It was horrifically noticeable that they cut something out there, of course, so maybe the editors weren't that hot, but still, just attempting it and succeeding, however clumsy--it's amazing). Scarface was also amusing, though that was only cutting out or changing swear words or whole lines of dialogue (much better and creative attempt went into it).

Err, ahem, back to anime edits, I remember an editing mistake on Cartoon Network left the a line from Outlaw Star said by Gene Starwind to one of the MacDougal brothers' in and unchanged. The line? "You bastard!" 5:00 on primetime kids television, I kid you not. I thought it was quite kickass. I'm sure soccer moms the world over gasped in shock, but maybe not. I never heard anything about it. I'm sure they caught it and edited it out for any repeat showings, too. Still was pretty amazing they left it in.

ZERO. · 10-08-2006, 12:38 AM

You know for some reason the girls at my school love naruto.

I don't understand why though.

I will watch the show from time to time, but all I see is that little kid get the crap beat out of him, then by some ungodly chance he wins everytime.

Am I missing something?

Magus · 10-08-2006, 12:53 AM

Yet more proof that we shall never understand women.

EDIT: Oh, and the only episode I watched, Naruto's mission was to use his shapeshifting powers to spy on women in a women's bathhouse. So this only proves the women love a peeping tom. But why do I keep getting maced?!

Thingol · 10-09-2006, 09:43 PM

Naruto was amusing for 2 episodes maybe?

Then you realized it was always he gets his ass kicked, then powers up and hits the baddie with Shadow Clone Jutsu. Every time. :/

And Naruto kinda just reminded of the same bumbling idiot as Vash, minus the occaisional moments of bad ass. But they're making a Trigun the movie. This is a sign of how much anime has degraded over the years.

Kenryoku_Maxis · 10-14-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus

Really, in the yesteryear, before 4Kids existed, anime edits were fine.

Anime edits were never fine. Not now and not then. They are edits of the original show and therefore make it something new. Something different. Something that is not how it was made originally.

They make it a second version of whatever you are watching. I don't want to watch Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade missing the bike chase. Just like I don't want to watch CardCaptor Sakura missing half of each episode. Same exact thing, except you don't see hollywood movies being edited except for extreme things and Anime series get edited for no reason whatsoever. 9 times out of 10 because some comapny 'thinks' America won't want to see some part of the story that isn't even gory or too harsh or because the editors persoally don't like that part of the story.

And many of you justify it is why it keeps happening.

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Originally Posted by Magus

I like good anime and don't like crappy anime. All there is to it. Basically it has to 1. have good animation 2. everything else follows because usually if it has good animation it means they have a good budget means they have a talented writer, artists, etc.

.....no. There are a ton of good shows that didn't get much of an animation budget (Slayers Season 1, Eva, etc) and there are plain awful shows which had large animation budgets (half of GONZOs works). And that just doesn't work for the simple fact that some shows put all their money into animation and nothing into anything else, producing crappy shows...with high quality animation.

I know what you are trying to say and sometimes this works. Especially in the 1996-2001 time period tis was the case with series gaining higher animation budgets as they went on in proportion to their popularity. But now adays we have a LOT of shows that are just 12-14 episodes being completed before airing and almost all the money going into animation.

It doesn't work to think like that anymore.

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Originally Posted by ZERO

You know for some reason the girls at my school love naruto.

I don't understand why though.

Sasuke.

No really, that's 50% of them right there. The other 50% are because of well, why do a lot of guys like watching Sailor Moon, a 'Shoujo' series once aimed at girls? If you flip it, you'll see why girls like watching Naruto, a Shonen show put on Cartoon Network (all Shonen all the time CN) aimed at 12 year old boys.

10-07-2006, 03:58 PM	#45
Sesshoumaru Tyrannus Rex Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 616	Elfen Lied on 4Kids would be like be watching Boondock Saints on broadcast television...(I did that once, they cut 3/4 of the scenes and 2/3 of the dialogue =/). Still, it was pretty funny to see the way they tried it... __________________ "The Second Amendment is about ensuring the rights of the citizen to be armed, despite [not at] the whims of government or State bureaucracy" "Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." -Theodore Roosevelt: San Francisco CA, May 13, 1903 "We are all citizens, not a one among us is a serf, and we damn well better remember it"

10-08-2006, 12:38 AM	#47
ZERO. Geek/Nerd extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In my computer. Posts: 691	You know for some reason the girls at my school love naruto. I don't understand why though. I will watch the show from time to time, but all I see is that little kid get the crap beat out of him, then by some ungodly chance he wins everytime. Am I missing something? __________________ p\|_\|7 \|_\|R h4\|\\|d 0\|\\| 4 H07 570\/3 Ph0R 4 \|\/\|I\|\\|\|_\|73, 4\|\\|D i7 533\|\/\|Z lIk3 4\|\\| h0\|_\|R. 5I7 \/\/I7h 4 pr377y GiRl Ph0r 4\|\\| h0\|_\|r, 4\|\\|D I7 533\|\/\|Z Lik3 4 \|\/\|i\|\\|\|_\|73. 7h47'Z r3l47i\/i7y. Albert Einstein leetified.

10-09-2006, 09:43 PM	#49
Thingol Always late to the party Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Freebirds World Burrito Posts: 11	Naruto was amusing for 2 episodes maybe? Then you realized it was always he gets his ass kicked, then powers up and hits the baddie with Shadow Clone Jutsu. Every time. :/ And Naruto kinda just reminded of the same bumbling idiot as Vash, minus the occaisional moments of bad ass. But they're making a Trigun the movie. This is a sign of how much anime has degraded over the years. __________________ Micheal Phelps of MvPs Rest in peace Luna Nemus and Muniephants

10-02-2006, 11:36 PM	#42
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Pssh, you should at least use my whole quote where I said I liked Slayers and a few other animes that aren't of the highest animation quality. I like Record of Lodoss War, for goodness sake, most of it is STILLS. And also for the record, I hate all the Shonen Jump animes everyone was complaining about getting edited, but I can still feel sympathy for them.

10-07-2006, 11:30 PM	#46
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	The Pulp Fiction edit was far worse than the Boondock Saints edit (they actually managed to cut the gimp in the basement ENTIRELY OUT OF THE MOVIE. It was the most insane thing I ever saw. I have to say whoever edited it had my respect for managing it. Seriously the most hilarious thing I've seen for a long time, them managing to cut him out like that. It was horrifically noticeable that they cut something out there, of course, so maybe the editors weren't that hot, but still, just attempting it and succeeding, however clumsy--it's amazing). Scarface was also amusing, though that was only cutting out or changing swear words or whole lines of dialogue (much better and creative attempt went into it). Err, ahem, back to anime edits, I remember an editing mistake on Cartoon Network left the a line from Outlaw Star said by Gene Starwind to one of the MacDougal brothers' in and unchanged. The line? "You bastard!" 5:00 on primetime kids television, I kid you not. I thought it was quite kickass. I'm sure soccer moms the world over gasped in shock, but maybe not. I never heard anything about it. I'm sure they caught it and edited it out for any repeat showings, too. Still was pretty amazing they left it in.

10-08-2006, 12:53 AM	#48
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Yet more proof that we shall never understand women. EDIT: Oh, and the only episode I watched, Naruto's mission was to use his shapeshifting powers to spy on women in a women's bathhouse. So this only proves the women love a peeping tom. But why do I keep getting maced?!