Games you wish had been better than they were - Page 5

Wigmund · 06-12-2009, 01:53 PM

Oh god, games I wish to have been better? Hmm...let's see:
Psi-Ops: The game was incredible fun up until the fucking psi-temple with those damn invisible demon-things, then it just went downhill. Fast.
Any game where the cutscenes show you doing something your character will never be able to do while you actually control them - I'm looking at you Devil May Cry.
XIII / Freedom Fighters / Beyond Good & Evil / Red Dead Revolver: Where's my damn sequel?!
Shadow of the Colossus: never mind, that game was close to perfection.

Regulus Tera · 06-12-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sithdarth

If you weren't boosting at every turn no matter how slight you where doing it wrong. Once you've got a track memorized you can start the boost early and ride it through a corner you normally wouldn't be able to get a boost out of. I time trialed Luigi's Raceway so many times I was able to get in a total time under a minute. If I recall correctly I even managed to boost on straightaways during that run. At least I assume you mean the powerslide boost. Then there was Rainbow Road where you could power slide off the edge and skip half the course. I cut a 5 minute race to about 3 minutes that way.

Boosting is the only way to win in that game, of course I use it. It still doesn't matter cause everyone goes from 0 to 100 kph in a straight line in less than five seconds.

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Originally Posted by CelesJessa

Actually one time I read an essay about how Necron totally makes sense and fits in. It blew my mind.

Easy: he's an homage to the final boss of FFIII (they have the same goddamn name). Totally logical.

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Originally Posted by Ryong

Tales of Legendia.
"Hey, we managed to make a great story with fun characters."

wat

i mean wat

mauve · 06-12-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by krogothwolf

He's either

1) A clone of you and the world is doomed now,
2) A stalker who emulates everything you do or
3) A Copycat!!!!!!

"He?"
XD
I'm a girl.

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Originally Posted by CelesJessa

Actually one time I read an essay about how Necron totally makes sense and fits in. It blew my mind.

?!?!?!?!?!?!!! Necron? Fitting in? This is madness!! Although I would be interested in hearing how they reckon that one.

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Originally Posted by fifthfiend

What's this fifthfiend post doing here and why does it have Mauve's name on it?

Somehow I feel as though I've just accomplished something either very great, or very evil.

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Originally Posted by CelesJessa

I would have loved FF12 so much more if there had been more character development, and if the plot after the Occuria and Sun Cryst stuff hadn't been so "Eh? What?". I really enjoyed the battle system and exploring the world. The plot and characters? Not so much.

Oh, seconded. I adored FF12. The world of Ivalice was beautiful, relatively believable, and expansive. The bestiary itself was fantastic. I killed random monsters just so I could read more entries in that thing.

I found the plot to be really engaging and dramatic, up until the point where they tossed in the whole Occuria dealie. Magical war drama? Cool. Magical otherworldly figures interruptin' the war drama to send me to some FREAKING GIGANTIC TOWER FULL OF MONSTERS THAT TAKES FOREVER AND A DAY TO GET THROUGH so I can go break some crystal that nobody had heard of up until that point? Not so cool. And as far as the characters go, I agree that most lacked development. Balthier and Basch, however, are badass and could've held up the plot on their own. Those two, Fran, and Dr. Cid were the only characters I really cared about. I would have liked Penelo to have some more character development too, seeing as how her entire purpose in the story dwindled to nearly nothing after your first stop in Bhujerba. I really didn't care much for Vaan and Ashe, although from what I gather, the game's creator didn't much care for them either.

CelesJessa · 06-12-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mauve Mage

?!?!?!?!?!?!!! Necron? Fitting in? This is madness!! Although I would be interested in hearing how they reckon that one.

I think I managed to find it again. Reading it again, I really need to play FF9 again to see if it makes sense to me. (But FF9 is sooo long) I still think Necron is random and dumb, but I thought that theory was kind of interesting.

Si Civa · 06-12-2009, 02:39 PM

I didn't bother finishing FF7 because I really find annoying all those minigames and there's no way I would bother villain that doesn't actual interested me a bit. Sephiroth must be the most overhyped character ever which certainly ruins playing the whole game. I would have enjoyed playing the game more if I wasn't yelled all the fucking time that it is the best game evah and forevah.
Rufus, whose name I had to search in wikipedia, should have been major boss in end game, but they pretty much fucked that thing too in the final part of the game.
Hate, hate, hate, haaaate. And bias too.

And final part of FFVI then? We all know that it sucked.
Too many characters which aren't given enough personal quests to make them more interesting. And having some characters actually having reason to fight against Kefka. Umaro totally comes my mind, suprise.
And I could go on but I'm having head ache.

Archbio · 06-12-2009, 03:14 PM

Master of Orion III. If the combat system hadn't been broken, it might have been one of the greatest games ever, full stop. It just wasn't finished.

Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX could have used a greater difficulty level. I mean, what's the point of all creating three complex RPG systems if victory is guaranteed if you don't bother thinking tpp much about it. IX even seems to forget it's supposed to be interactive for a long while.

Final Fantasy VIII isn't as bad as the other two, because refusing the exploit the game's gamebreaking flaws restores some challenge and a good deal of interest to the experience, but there's a real problem in those strategies being the less straightforward ones.

Freespace 2 should have had the original Freespace's story, or the latter should have had the former's improvements in every other department. It's not that Colosus' story was bad; it's still interesting, but it just doesn't feel like a full story. It's like a footnote, but a footnote you actually want to play longer.

Ryong · 06-12-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

wat

i mean wat

You liked Tales of Abyss, didn't you? It's impossible to understand why people like Legendia when you like Abyss and the reverse is also true. And as much of a crazy loner Senel is, he's much better than Luke Fon Fabre. He goes from a crazy loner to a cocky protagonist guy, Luke goes from whiny rich bastard to hero. Sure, Senel isn't as strong as he acts, but he's got Grune aka designated magician to protect the world and Shirley aka girl that casts improved pink versions of spells others have, but much faster and stronger to help him so he can be as cocky as he wants.

Kim · 06-12-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Archbio

Final Fantasy VIII... gamebreaking flaws...

99 Sleep junctioned to sword ftw!!!

Archbio · 06-12-2009, 03:26 PM

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99 Sleep junctioned to sword ftw!!!

Doesn't it go up to 100?

I don't think I've ever, ever used sleep in that game outside of a junction. There's just no upside to it!

Kim · 06-12-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Archbio

Doesn't it go up to 100?

I don't think I've ever, ever used sleep in that game outside of a junction. There's just no upside to it!

I thought it only went up to 99, but you may be right. I haven't played the game in a while. I never used sleep outside junction either, because when it was equipped to Squall, it was crazy broken. I remember some of the bosses being damn near impossible for me, then I would throw Sleep on my sword, and just keep wailing on them with Squall while everyone else focused on spells and summons. It was rad.

06-12-2009, 01:53 PM	#41
Wigmund Lakitu Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northwest Arkansas Posts: 2,139	Oh god, games I wish to have been better? Hmm...let's see: Psi-Ops: The game was incredible fun up until the fucking psi-temple with those damn invisible demon-things, then it just went downhill. Fast. Any game where the cutscenes show you doing something your character will never be able to do while you actually control them - I'm looking at you Devil May Cry. XIII / Freedom Fighters / Beyond Good & Evil / Red Dead Revolver: Where's my damn sequel?! Shadow of the Colossus: never mind, that game was close to perfection. __________________ Slightly off-kilter

06-12-2009, 03:14 PM	#46
Archbio Data is Turned On Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,980	Master of Orion III. If the combat system hadn't been broken, it might have been one of the greatest games ever, full stop. It just wasn't finished. Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX could have used a greater difficulty level. I mean, what's the point of all creating three complex RPG systems if victory is guaranteed if you don't bother thinking tpp much about it. IX even seems to forget it's supposed to be interactive for a long while. Final Fantasy VIII isn't as bad as the other two, because refusing the exploit the game's gamebreaking flaws restores some challenge and a good deal of interest to the experience, but there's a real problem in those strategies being the less straightforward ones. Freespace 2 should have had the original Freespace's story, or the latter should have had the former's improvements in every other department. It's not that Colosus' story was bad; it's still interesting, but it just doesn't feel like a full story. It's like a footnote, but a footnote you actually want to play longer. __________________ 6201 Reasons to Support Electoral Reform.

06-12-2009, 02:39 PM	#45
Si Civa Nothing's gonna change my world Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,078	I didn't bother finishing FF7 because I really find annoying all those minigames and there's no way I would bother villain that doesn't actual interested me a bit. Sephiroth must be the most overhyped character ever which certainly ruins playing the whole game. I would have enjoyed playing the game more if I wasn't yelled all the fucking time that it is the best game evah and forevah. Rufus, whose name I had to search in wikipedia, should have been major boss in end game, but they pretty much fucked that thing too in the final part of the game. Hate, hate, hate, haaaate. And bias too. And final part of FFVI then? We all know that it sucked. Too many characters which aren't given enough personal quests to make them more interesting. And having some characters actually having reason to fight against Kefka. Umaro totally comes my mind, suprise. And I could go on but I'm having head ache.