Pok�mon Umbral Discussion 7: Plusle and Minun Equals Zero - Page 5

Astral Harmony · 03-27-2010, 01:29 PM

Right, then. I'll go get the chloroform.

Dracorion · 03-27-2010, 01:41 PM

Is it only Ruin generals that they force-deploy against or is it gonna be like that with all Ruin-types from now on?

Also, is Renny's Togekiss affected? And when Pierce gets Nagarai, does that mean he'll be able to bypass the two pokemon limit and use all three or just choose one to bench?

Team Badass' best best is probably to take out two Narchams (one, if Pierce can down his), and then concentrate on the Omnisroth.

Also, dibs Dialga and Mewtwo. Just callin' it now. I think I'm going to hold off on making up a badass new legendary for Pierce until, like, Mission 7. I'm thinking a Dark/Psychic type.

And since Tyranitar's behavior might need some explaining, here's Pierce's pokemon's personalities:

Tyranitar and Blaziken are both very protective of Pierce, and very good friends. Tyranitar being the most reckless of the two, while Blaziken prefers to stay close to Pierce. If Renny hugged them they would push him off like a harmless bug.

It's entirely possible that they're actually a gay couple and Pierce is their adopted kid. Sounds like it would make for a great sitcom. Wonder what their theme song would be like.

I'm a Tyranitar
I'm a Blaziken
Together we adopted a cute little kid
We're Legal Custodi- Guardian Monsters!

Get it?

Skarmory is out for blood. Always. Would peck out Renny's eyes if he tried to hug her.

Starmie and Metagross are indifferent. And Metagross, having four brains, likes to think it's better than everyone else. Wouldn't care if Renny hugged them.

Nagarai has already been explained in painstaking detail. Would shock Renny since she only has eyes for Pierce.

And Kingdra is the playful seahorse. Would looooooove a hug from Renny.

Bard The 5th LW · 03-27-2010, 04:08 PM

I assume that you intended for me and Menarker to pick one of the legendarys, right AB? If not I can edit the post.

Astral Harmony · 03-27-2010, 06:05 PM

Just Ruin Generals. They'll feature in a lot of future missions, but next time I'll give warning, just in case you want to switch out those Pok�mon right before the specific battle so you're not forced into a disadvantage or using a tactic you don't want to use yet.

Togekiss is not affected. If Nagarai is with Pierce, he'll be forced to bench one. Not enough room is not enough room, though I guess it could be like Rayleen's Pok�mon in the bank mission and sit on the sidelines, looking ready.

Usually when there're already Pulverots on the field, the Narchams aren't eager to combine. It's usually only when the enemy force is reduced to a single wounded Pulverot that they would consider making a replacement. However, they usually won't do this when a fair number of them are injured since becoming a Pulverot only transfers the damage and doesn't heal it up.

Renny and Charlotte can take their picks of Latios and Latias. One could have both, each could get one, or they can abandon both in which case Tsubasa and Shannon'll take 'em. One thing to note is that Tsubasa only has one Pok�mon and if she picks up one of the legendaries, she's forced to stay out of the fight until one is defeated.

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To be honest, I'm not sure how this battle will go, but I think those're the best kinds of battles. I mostly did it just to see how capable this group of five characters and five NPCs can be after a little legendary reinforcement. I'm not certain why I came up with the enemy formation...

Armored Bishoujo: "Ah, fuck it! Let's make 'em squeel, ha ha ha! Man, I'm hungry now."

Geminex · 03-27-2010, 06:48 PM

The only thing I regret is that Rio, and her ability to generate music, isn't here. Getting to hear "the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny" while this battle's in the works would be even more awesome.

And what I'm thinking is that we should start by focusing fire on the Phantomere. We don't know what it can do, but it can't be good. And besides, if it's their "leader", the one who controls them, then with any luck killing it will remove the Ruin types' ability to Syncstrike.

On my side, we also need someone to confuse the Omnisroth, or maybe make it fall asleep. Yeah, the latter might be best. Matt's sleep powder has 75% accuracy. If Shizuru starts with her high-damage signature move (which'll also lower Phantomere's stats by two levels, including its defense and special defense), I follow up with a helping-hand (Rachel) boosted, Stamina boosted, Ghost type attack (Phantomere's ghost type, right?), and the other team manages to weaken it as well, maybe powering up their own dragon attack, we should probably be able to 1-hit the fucker in the first round. We'll regret it, of course, when we feel the combined wrath of everything else on the field, but it'll have been worth it.

Alternately, we have Tsubasa use her Wicked Dance signature technique on the Phantomere, and have all the other Team's legendaries follow up on that. Throw in some helping hands again, and it should die. Then Chiruzu can Beatdown the Omnisroth, and I can go in with the Dragon Slave. Helping Hand again, Stamina boost, weakened Omisroth stats, it should die.

In short: If we focus fire, it might be possible to kill both of their most powerful pokemon in the first turn. Discuss.

Menarker · 03-27-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dracorion

Also, is Renny's Togekiss affected? And when Pierce gets Nagarai, does that mean he'll be able to bypass the two pokemon limit and use all three or just choose one to bench?

Togekiss is not legendary or even psuedo despite how powerful and rare it is. Renny's Shaymin however is full out legendary despite having stats only equal to a psuedo legendary.

And I just came back from work. Hope I didn't miss anything due to being absent. (Such as not being able to choose between Latios and Latias apparently. Ah well.)

And I totally expect Shannon to be pleasantly freaked out by the sudden presence of a legendary grass pokemon. ^^

EDIT: Can we assume that we had some time to heal up and prepare overall? Also, any chance that Lola would be able to grab Latias? (Assuming Renny takes it and gives it to her)
"Congrats! I'm promoting you to Battle-Nurse!"

Dracorion · 03-27-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

In short: If we focus fire, it might be possible to kill both of their most powerful pokemon in the first turn. Discuss.

Well you're no fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geminex

And what I'm thinking is that we should start by focusing fire on the Phantomere. We don't know what it can do, but it can't be good. And besides, if it's their "leader", the one who controls them, then with any luck killing it will remove the Ruin types' ability to Syncstrike.

I doubt it. The Ruin types back at the bank didn't have a leader and they could Syncstrike just fine.

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Then Chiruzu can Beatdown the Omnisroth, and I can go in with the Dragon Slave. Helping Hand again, Stamina boost, weakened Omisroth stats, it should die.

Who the hell would use Helping Hand on you? I'm not sure people on the other side can support our side or vice-versa.

Astral Harmony · 03-27-2010, 08:55 PM

Dracorian's very correct. Unfortunately, one team won't be able to support the other in any way. This goes for moves and character swaps. This only thing both sides of the battle have is an enemy they can both share (Phantomere) and weather effects (like Tyranitar's sandstorm).

And no, Lola cannot become a Battle Nurse and use Pok�mon. Impact and Matthias would be so lonely.

Dracorion · 03-27-2010, 09:06 PM

Really? Let me paint you a picture:

Matthias uses Rainy Day and Tyranitar's Sandstorm is raging. It's wet. It's dirty. Lola is sweaty from keeping track of a pokemon as well as fighting. There's mud everywhere.

That sound like something you don't want?

Geminex · 03-27-2010, 10:14 PM

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I'm not sure people on the other side can support our side or vice-versa.

Course not. But last time I checked, Rachel was on our team. She can use helping hand, can't she?

@ Menarker: Why aren't you requesting that Tsubasa use her OHKO attack on Phantomere? It's your strongest targetable enemy.

And Drac, just have your metagross hypnotize her. Save yourself some effort.

03-27-2010, 01:41 PM	#42
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Is it only Ruin generals that they force-deploy against or is it gonna be like that with all Ruin-types from now on? Also, is Renny's Togekiss affected? And when Pierce gets Nagarai, does that mean he'll be able to bypass the two pokemon limit and use all three or just choose one to bench? Team Badass' best best is probably to take out two Narchams (one, if Pierce can down his), and then concentrate on the Omnisroth. Also, dibs Dialga and Mewtwo. Just callin' it now. I think I'm going to hold off on making up a badass new legendary for Pierce until, like, Mission 7. I'm thinking a Dark/Psychic type. And since Tyranitar's behavior might need some explaining, here's Pierce's pokemon's personalities: Tyranitar and Blaziken are both very protective of Pierce, and very good friends. Tyranitar being the most reckless of the two, while Blaziken prefers to stay close to Pierce. If Renny hugged them they would push him off like a harmless bug. It's entirely possible that they're actually a gay couple and Pierce is their adopted kid. Sounds like it would make for a great sitcom. Wonder what their theme song would be like. I'm a Tyranitar I'm a Blaziken Together we adopted a cute little kid We're Legal Custodi- Guardian Monsters! Get it? Skarmory is out for blood. Always. Would peck out Renny's eyes if he tried to hug her. Starmie and Metagross are indifferent. And Metagross, having four brains, likes to think it's better than everyone else. Wouldn't care if Renny hugged them. Nagarai has already been explained in painstaking detail. Would shock Renny since she only has eyes for Pierce. And Kingdra is the playful seahorse. Would looooooove a hug from Renny. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away. Last edited by Dracorion; 03-27-2010 at 02:39 PM.

03-27-2010, 06:05 PM	#44
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Just Ruin Generals. They'll feature in a lot of future missions, but next time I'll give warning, just in case you want to switch out those Pok�mon right before the specific battle so you're not forced into a disadvantage or using a tactic you don't want to use yet. Togekiss is not affected. If Nagarai is with Pierce, he'll be forced to bench one. Not enough room is not enough room, though I guess it could be like Rayleen's Pok�mon in the bank mission and sit on the sidelines, looking ready. Usually when there're already Pulverots on the field, the Narchams aren't eager to combine. It's usually only when the enemy force is reduced to a single wounded Pulverot that they would consider making a replacement. However, they usually won't do this when a fair number of them are injured since becoming a Pulverot only transfers the damage and doesn't heal it up. Renny and Charlotte can take their picks of Latios and Latias. One could have both, each could get one, or they can abandon both in which case Tsubasa and Shannon'll take 'em. One thing to note is that Tsubasa only has one Pok�mon and if she picks up one of the legendaries, she's forced to stay out of the fight until one is defeated. ----- To be honest, I'm not sure how this battle will go, but I think those're the best kinds of battles. I mostly did it just to see how capable this group of five characters and five NPCs can be after a little legendary reinforcement. I'm not certain why I came up with the enemy formation... Armored Bishoujo: "Ah, fuck it! Let's make 'em squeel, ha ha ha! Man, I'm hungry now." Last edited by Astral Harmony; 03-27-2010 at 06:22 PM.

03-27-2010, 08:55 PM	#48
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Dracorian's very correct. Unfortunately, one team won't be able to support the other in any way. This goes for moves and character swaps. This only thing both sides of the battle have is an enemy they can both share (Phantomere) and weather effects (like Tyranitar's sandstorm). And no, Lola cannot become a Battle Nurse and use Pok�mon. Impact and Matthias would be so lonely. Last edited by Astral Harmony; 03-27-2010 at 09:02 PM.

03-27-2010, 09:06 PM	#49
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Really? Let me paint you a picture: Matthias uses Rainy Day and Tyranitar's Sandstorm is raging. It's wet. It's dirty. Lola is sweaty from keeping track of a pokemon as well as fighting. There's mud everywhere. That sound like something you don't want? __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

03-27-2010, 01:29 PM	#41
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Right, then. I'll go get the chloroform.

03-27-2010, 04:08 PM	#43
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	I assume that you intended for me and Menarker to pick one of the legendarys, right AB? If not I can edit the post.

03-27-2010, 06:48 PM	#45
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	The only thing I regret is that Rio, and her ability to generate music, isn't here. Getting to hear "the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny" while this battle's in the works would be even more awesome. And what I'm thinking is that we should start by focusing fire on the Phantomere. We don't know what it can do, but it can't be good. And besides, if it's their "leader", the one who controls them, then with any luck killing it will remove the Ruin types' ability to Syncstrike. On my side, we also need someone to confuse the Omnisroth, or maybe make it fall asleep. Yeah, the latter might be best. Matt's sleep powder has 75% accuracy. If Shizuru starts with her high-damage signature move (which'll also lower Phantomere's stats by two levels, including its defense and special defense), I follow up with a helping-hand (Rachel) boosted, Stamina boosted, Ghost type attack (Phantomere's ghost type, right?), and the other team manages to weaken it as well, maybe powering up their own dragon attack, we should probably be able to 1-hit the fucker in the first round. We'll regret it, of course, when we feel the combined wrath of everything else on the field, but it'll have been worth it. Alternately, we have Tsubasa use her Wicked Dance signature technique on the Phantomere, and have all the other Team's legendaries follow up on that. Throw in some helping hands again, and it should die. Then Chiruzu can Beatdown the Omnisroth, and I can go in with the Dragon Slave. Helping Hand again, Stamina boost, weakened Omisroth stats, it should die. In short: If we focus fire, it might be possible to kill both of their most powerful pokemon in the first turn. Discuss.