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Lithp · 06-26-2010, 04:29 PM

Archbio: If anything, it sucks the emotion out of the Seymour thing. And, frankly, I don't watch Futurama to get depressed.

Sithdarth: The whole concept was "eliminating time paradoxes," so I don't think that's it.

Sithdarth · 06-26-2010, 06:34 PM

There weren't really any paradoxes in terms of how Fry changed things. Everything happened like it was supposed to happen just a few extra things happened as well that only effected the present of the series. Then any future paradox possibilities were eliminated with the death of the time copies.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 06-26-2010, 07:05 PM

Yeah, the time code allowed one to perform "non-paradoxical" time travel, which basically means, "doing whatever the fuck you want without consequences". Which is exactly what happened in the first movie. Essentially what we saw in the first movie was an alternate past, created by the use of the time code, which didn't affect the cause and effect flow of the natural universe. So in essence, there now exists 2 pasts; the one in which Seymour waited for a Fry that never returned, and a Seymour which met Lars from an alternate future.

Just because they both exist doesn't mean that either of them was cancelled out by the other, they both exist, in alternate past versions of the same universe.

In short, Wibbley Wobbly, Timey Wimey... Stuff.

Lithp · 06-26-2010, 09:34 PM

Umm...no. The reason that the time paradoxes had to be eliminated is BECAUSE they weren't in some kind of parallel universe. If there "aren't any paradoxes," then it logically follows that none of the events of the series were changed. If they were "changed," then that would be a time paradox.

We can see this in the other episode of the series involving time travel, Roswell That Ends Well. The things the characters did didn't change the past, they were part of a stable time loop.

Archbio · 06-26-2010, 09:40 PM

I remember the universe ripping open at the end of the movie because there were too many paradoxes.

Or something.

Lithp · 06-26-2010, 10:11 PM

There was something to the effect of using the equation being highly risky & making the universe unstable, I don't really remember.

Kim · 06-26-2010, 10:15 PM

It was because there were too many paradoxes.

Sithdarth · 06-26-2010, 10:31 PM

Rather there were too many Benders. Also the whole point of the time code as I understood it was to be able to go back and time and do whatever you wanted without effecting the perceived course of history. The only paradoxes that were ever actively eliminated where the time clones. Which is of course why the too many Benders at the end ripped the Universe. All the doom in once place reached doom critical mass.

Lithp · 06-26-2010, 10:44 PM

NonCon: I'm not demanding citation. Just be content with that.

Sithdarth: Exactly. "Without effecting the perceived course of history."

Archbio · 06-26-2010, 10:45 PM

So the time code allows for time travel in which whatever paradoxes are caused are corrected, and at the end there was too many paradoxes concentrated together so that when they were corrected, it ripped open the Universe.

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Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Umm...no. The reason that the time paradoxes had to be eliminated is BECAUSE they weren't in some kind of parallel universe. If there "aren't any paradoxes," then it logically follows that none of the events of the series were changed. If they were "changed," then that would be a time paradox. We can see this in the other episode of the series involving time travel, Roswell That Ends Well. The things the characters did didn't change the past, they were part of a stable time loop. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

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Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	There was something to the effect of using the equation being highly risky & making the universe unstable, I don't really remember. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

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Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	It was because there were too many paradoxes. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

06-26-2010, 06:34 PM	#42
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	There weren't really any paradoxes in terms of how Fry changed things. Everything happened like it was supposed to happen just a few extra things happened as well that only effected the present of the series. Then any future paradox possibilities were eliminated with the death of the time copies.

06-26-2010, 10:31 PM	#48
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Rather there were too many Benders. Also the whole point of the time code as I understood it was to be able to go back and time and do whatever you wanted without effecting the perceived course of history. The only paradoxes that were ever actively eliminated where the time clones. Which is of course why the too many Benders at the end ripped the Universe. All the doom in once place reached doom critical mass.

06-26-2010, 10:44 PM	#49
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	NonCon: I'm not demanding citation. Just be content with that. Sithdarth: Exactly. "Without effecting the perceived course of history." __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

06-26-2010, 10:45 PM	#50
Archbio Data is Turned On Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,980	So the time code allows for time travel in which whatever paradoxes are caused are corrected, and at the end there was too many paradoxes concentrated together so that when they were corrected, it ripped open the Universe. __________________ 6201 Reasons to Support Electoral Reform.