Hey, Avengers is gonna be pretty cool.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

Things I just realized:

-Barring comics-logic shenanigans, the 70 year time jump means no more Hayley Atwell...or Tommy Lee Jones or Sebastian Stan or anyone else...but mostly it means no more Hayley Atwell :<(((((

-So, Captain America never really fondue-d anyone, did he? Does he get to be leader of the Avengers because they feel bad for him that he's still a virgin?

She has a niece or granddaughter in the comics that looks exactly like her if I remember correctly. And Bucky should be back in the second movie.

[Magus]

Yes, never doubt comics logic shenanigans.

As for Captain America, he never has any sex, he's married to Lady Liberty.

EDIT: BTW why isn't there already a fellow-superheroine love interest for Captain America named Lady Liberty?!

ANOTHER EDIT: Shit, too bad, DC Comics came up with her first.

[Lumenskir]

Hmm, I wonder if comics-logic shenanigans will fly in comic book movies? I mean, we've seen that people are more than willing to accept different actors/actresses playing the same part (on both side of the DC/Marvel divide), so I guess it's sort of the same thing?

Also, I get why they needed to get Cap to the present, but I don't really see his adventures being as great as period-specific stories. I mean, he's basically just a stronger than average guy with an invincible boomeranging shield. Any of the other Marvel movie villains we've seen so far could kill him easily from a distance without breaking a sweat.

[Marc v4.0]

That is a serious understatement of how much better then an average person Cap is.


He is better then exceptional humans, better then superb humans in peak condition at the height of their game. He consistantly beats up super-villians and goes toe-to-toe with heavy hitters. He is good for it.

[Lumenskir]

That is a serious understatement of how much better then an average person Cap is.


He is better then exceptional humans, better then superb humans in peak condition at the height of their game. He consistantly beats up super-villians and goes toe-to-toe with heavy hitters. He is good for it.

Hey man, I'm just going from the movies. I mean, he's great (and entertaining) when fighting mecha mooks who shoot lasers one at a time for him to deflect, but either of the faux-Iron Man suits could bombard him from the atmosphere, Loki could magic him from just as far away, and whatever it was the Hulk fought could presumably just rend him limb from limb?

And for some reason I always thought he was the oldest because he lived all the way through the years just not aging or whatever, but we've basically got an Avatar situation where he's basically a 22 year old with some close combat experience against one type of enemy, not a wizened mastermind.

But mostly I just wanted him to fight Cold War Russians.

[Magus]

Well the shield's ability to basically deflect anything and everything explains his ability to battle lightning bolts and survive nuclear blasts, probably. Plus he is pretty super-fast and super-strong, too.

Plus in an Avengers movie he'd probably be the leader, and the leader of a group is always sort of well-rounded and bland in a way. He has to wrangle an arrogant hothead in Thor, an arrogant smarmy drunk in Tony, and a mild-mannered scientist who flips the fuck out and turns into a big green guy in Bruce.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

Hey man, I'm just going from the movies. I mean, he's great (and entertaining) when fighting mecha mooks who shoot lasers one at a time for him to deflect, but either of the faux-Iron Man suits could bombard him from the atmosphere, Loki could magic him from just as far away, and whatever it was the Hulk fought could presumably just rend him limb from limb?

Dude, Cap would fuck up the Hulk and any of the Hulk's villains. Remember that bit in Incredible Hulk where Blonsky was dodging everything the Hulk through at him? Yeah, that was a defective super soldier serum. What makes Cap a threat is how agile he is and how much smarter he is than everyone else in regards to tactics.

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

But mostly I just wanted him to fight Cold War Russians.

This is probably going to be what we get in the sequel but not in the way a lot of people would expect. If they're smart we'll be getting the Winter Soldier and it will be awesome.

[Magus]

Well just from what occurred in the movie I'd say it's undoubted we'll get that. *CAPTAIN AMERICA COMIC SPOILER* The Winter Soldier: Like the Red Hood but not terrible.

[Bells]

i just going out here to say that even though i knew what Cap would be alive by the end of the movie, it still felt brilliant the way his last fighting scene was handled. I think they struck the core nature of "Super Hero" right there. Captain American was a better boy scout than superman... all movies combined.

As for Avengers, i'm really, really, looking forward to see how Stark, Thor and Steve will interact in this movie, if they keep the same sense of humor they have so far, the comedy portions of this movie should be fantastic.

Also, i loved how the managed to keep Captain surrounded by Multi Cultural characters during the whole movie. A nice touch actually.

PS: Hugo Weavin is one of the best actors to play bad guys... goddamn!

[Lumenskir]

Remember that bit in Incredible Hulk where Blonsky was dodging everything the Hulk through at him? Yeah, that was a defective super soldier serum. What makes Cap a threat is how agile he is and how much smarter he is than everyone else in regards to tactics.

I thought that was defective gamma stuff...and while that guy could dodge, he couldn't make a dent in the Hulk even with a grenade launcher.

And I could buy the tactics argument if Cap had more than four years of actual combat experience, and whose main tactic was wreaking Wilhelm screams throughout the enemy's camp point blank.

Captain American was a better boy scout than superman

This is mostly the reason why I felt the pre-Cap sequence didn't need to be as long as it was. With snarky characters like Stark most of the fun of the movie is seeing them snark about, but repeated instances of clean cut morality don't really contribute anything new. I would have been perfectly fine if they had found a way to cut it down to just the fake grenade bit and the pre-serum drinking talk.

Also, i loved how the managed to keep Captain surrounded by Multi Cultural characters during the whole movie. A nice touch actually.

Thankfully, no Canadians.