Hatland Mafia

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Aldurin

probably sexual secrets.

^

[Solid Snake]

Solid Snake types up a Pink Wall of Text for fun in which he talks about everyone in the game
(Because Snake loves the inevitable controversy that begins when serious discussion is attempted and as of right now this topic is indulging in the pathetic style of joke-posting I abhor in all D1s)

1. Fenris

I'm going to miss the sweet host/player dynamic Fenris and I have had going on for the past couple games when we'd shoot the breeze (while not revealing any confidential information, of course) on AIM as the games were ongoing. Now Fenris is a potential enemy and I suspect he'll want to eliminate me early if he's Scum because he knows what I'm capable of, and he knows I'm intimately familiar with scum-Fenris since Fenris was totally a dirty Midnight Crew Mafiate in Homestuck.

2. Gregness

Presumably he was in the last game but I literally remember absolutely nothing regarding his participation or lack thereof.
...In a related note why is IHMN not in this game? The damned MVP of MLP Mafia should definitely be present here. And even if his role doesn't require it, he should speak solely with hat-themed pictures and GIFs.

3. Moogle0119

...He was in Homestuck Mafia but did little of substance. He was WQ, which was a Town 'Nilla role, so I guess I'd expect him to be relatively inconsequential if he's a 'Nilla here. But still, the quiet ones, they're who you have to watch out for.

4. Shyria Dracnoir

*gasp*
A woman in our boys-only Mafia clubhouse? BLASPHEMY
We can't trust women because they're fickle and weak and prone to deceit and [insert sexism here] so guys let's lynch her posthaste

5. Viridis

...He's the one with the Deadpool avatars and the funky name color shenanigans, right?

6. Hawk

Well, we'll be able to easily judge the type of role and faction he's participating in based on his activity. Which, of course, leads to the absolutely WIFOM-licious situation where I'd fully expect Hawk to be very active this game as Scum or Vig.

...Oh, don't give me that "you're telling us too much Snake, you're giving everyone excessive information!" look, I haven't said anything every anti-Town role in this game hasn't already assumed.

7. Sifright

POLICY LYNCH
...Naw just kidding Sifright, here's hoping you continue to improve. Unless you're scum this time, in which case I sincerely hope you slip up and give Town incredibly useful information.

8. Karesh

Forever intertwined with Sifright, the lovers do dance across the heavens
I expect Karesh to be reasonably productive and reasonably active, and if he isn't, it's a good sign he's scum.

9. Revolving Ocelot

...I expect Revolving Ocelot to be reasonably productive and reasonably active as well, unless he has one of those "WOE IS ME I HATE LIFE" breakdowns, in which case he'll begin sobbing uncontrollably until he's replaced.

...Don't have a breakdown RO, in all sincerity you're really a rather cool dude.

10. Aldurin

He's claimed he's a 'Nilla, which would be a good thing if it's true because I'll be damned if Earl gets a free lynch override again.
Also, Earl, if you do have a free lynch override? Please get me the frak out of this game right now, because I no longer have any interest in participating if that's the case.

11. Geminex

I expect Geminex to play well and be very active. If he starts skirting in activity, it's a bad sign. Also, I expect him to be reasonably capable at interjecting with intelligent thoughts with something like a 70% accuracy rate.

12. Inbred Chocobo

Another reason for my vote on IC, aside from just a policy vote against anyone who dares "No Lynch" this round, is that I absolutely know that IC is capable of far better play than his first post indicates. Dude was one of the truly competent townies out there in Homestuck Mafia, with solid hunches. And he was a 'Nilla in that game, and still able to advance theories with startling accuracy. Generally speaking, if his hunches or ideas turn out faulty in this game it's probably a good sign he's not in a similar pro-Town role.

13. BahamutFlare

His early activity reminds me somewhat of a slightly more lucid Verified in a way that is not remotely flattering. I have nothing else to add just yet.

14. Greed

I expect Greed to pull a reversal this game if he's Scum, meaning in an anti-Town role I now think Greed will over-compensate for last game's failure by being incredibly active and 'helpful' in a way that's only subtly misleading.

15. Smarty

I fully expect Smarty to be absolutely infuriated with all the "information-heavy" D1 dialogue this post provokes. In a communist rage, our resident Lenin will strike with a monstrous fury, declaring that Snake ruins every Mafia game in the history of everything, and demanding that I be lynched immediately.

...Unfortunately I really see Smarty doing this whether he's Scum or Town, so his anger will translate into a null-tell. I do, however, fully anticipate that if Smarty is Town and we lose he will find a way to blame it all on me, whereas if Smarty is Scum and he wins he will suggest that Town lost solely because Snake played a horrific game, and if Smarty is Town and we win he will suggest that we won despite the incredible burden Snake placed upon us and our teammates.

16. Ravashak

No idea. But the name's catchy.

17. Bard

What are the odds that Bard is scum three times in a row?
Then again, wouldn't Bookie rely on just that in some smart move to trick us all into letting our guards down?
I felt Bard played somewhat differently in Homestuck than in MLP Mafia despite his similar roles, so maybe he knows what he's doing.

18. rpgdemon

RPG has a confidence thing that has made him easy to read in the past; the more confident he acts in this thread the more likely he's anti-Town, as he seems to get a boost of assertiveness when he knows what his role is and what he's expected to do. As Town, in a dearth of information, he'll indulge endless hypotheticals and become consumed in an abyss of dauntless possibilities. I wonder how he'll compensate now in response to me highlighting that element of his playstyle.

19. Kerensky

Beware the obvious jester
(...I actually doubt he or IC are Jesters because I just doubt the Jester role is included in almost any decently-hosted Mafia game, as it's a broken role.)

20. P-sleazy

Like with Bard and Fenris, it'll be worth comparing and contrasting his manner of play here with his Mafiate play in Homestuck Mafia.

21. Solid Snake

I am amazing in every imaginable way.
Debate that, punks

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Did you just give everybody a list of shit they should do to keep you from thinking they're scum?

Also, active sure. Productive?
HAH

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

21. Solid Snake

I am amazing in every imaginable way.
Debate that, punks

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

4. Shyria Dracnoir

*gasp*
A woman in our boys-only Mafia clubhouse? BLASPHEMY
We can't trust women because they're fickle and weak and prone to deceit and [insert sexism here] so guys let's lynch her posthaste

I think I figured out why you're bad with women, mang

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Karesh

Did you just give everybody a list of shit they should do to keep you from thinking they're scum?

I just prepared a trap and I'm waiting to see who gets caught. And the best part is no one knows what the trap is.

Also VOTE FENRIS VOTE FENRIS VOTE FENRIS you have CROSSED THE LINE SIR

[Aldurin]

Unvote: Bard

Vote: Solid Snake

I have no idea where you're going with these incoherent shenanigans and I honestly feel like it didn't actually do that good in the last game (take note of how we piledrived the scum after you were gone.) If anything you're probably going to confuse more townies than help them if that's what you're trying.

[Solid Snake]

Yes, I'm going to take lectures on how my Mafia gameplay is terrible from the guy who lynch-overrode Geminex and effectively also prevented me from articulating my suspicions when I promised I would the following day.

Hint: You were able to piledive scum in part because a trail of evidence was left and I had a sizable hand in building the case, not to mention handing you Nik post-death on a silver platter because Scum apparently felt totally comfortable with the 1-to-1 tradeoff.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Aldurin

I have no idea where you're going with these incoherent shenanigans and I honestly feel like it didn't actually do that good in the last game (take note of how we piledrived the scum after you were gone.) If anything you're probably going to confuse more townies than help them if that's what you're trying.

Are you really going with tl;dr as your reasoning for this?

Like I just want to know if you're really going with tl;dr as your reasoning for this.

[rpgdemon]

Actually, I've only played two games, and Game 1 didn't feel like I could do anything, since I was bulletproof and terrified of being lynched. I wanted to not be a wasted role.

Game 2 confidence stemmed from both from learning more, and no burden of being bulletproof.


Also, since this is how you did it last game:

Snake: Will make up a bunch of reasons for people to be scum, and then say, "If they're not, they have to do this!". Then, if the people do the other thing, will go, "Hah, caught you, you're scum since you played like your townie profile, after I pointed it out!"

As I said last game, you really muddy the water when you do that. So, don't do that. It makes it hard to read anyone, and then you set yourself up as a position of, "Can't lynch Snake, he can read what's what! And everyone else is scum if they do something he says they won't, OR if they do something he says they will!", sort of making the game forced to pay heed to you, and making it hard for anyone else to do anything without becoming suspicious.

So, don't do what you did last game and keep going, "Hah! You've fallen into my trap! And that trap was a trap! And now you're in that trapped trap! By being trapped!", since that did honestly make it nearly impossible to get a read on anyone.

You said that my post last game made you go, "Wait, huh, he has a point", so I hope you'll follow through on that thought and try to guess in a way that doesn't cast blame on people no matter what they're doing. By your D1 logic last game, you've fallen into a trap, because you went back to being the long-post Snake, after it was pointed out that you weren't making long enough posts! And if you refute that claim, you'll fall into another trap!

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I just prepared a trap and I'm waiting to see who gets caught. And the best part is no one knows what the trap is.

Also VOTE FENRIS VOTE FENRIS VOTE FENRIS you have CROSSED THE LINE SIR

Oh come on what the fuck Snake, see this is the exact shenanigans I was talking about that you said you thought better of last game. Like, you made this post saying these things, while I was making my post saying that you probably knew better based on what you said last game.

Like, that is actually a legitimate and accidental trap there, since you made a post doing the exact things that I said that you wouldn't do (Having claimed to have learned better), at the exact same time that I said that Snake wouldn't do those things, because he said he learned better.