Let's Play: Vampire: Bloodlines - Page 59

BitVyper · 12-20-2008, 11:01 PM

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Man your morality is pretty skewed she's like the only pure good character in the game!

Being conflicted and seducing someone else so you can send them out to do your dirty work for you because you don't have the stomach to do it yourself does not equal good.

Oh, and neither does spamming someone's inbox with bad poetry.

I will grant that she isn't particularly evil, but then, I never said she was.

Mirai Gen · 12-21-2008, 02:29 AM

Bit: She also specifically tells you repeatedly not to kill anyone other than Chastity in that mission, as well as her friend David and just about everyone else except the targets. She also gets really really upset if you do kill anyone, pressing you about what kind of horrible thing you did.

So yeah, she's a seductive kinda manipulative chick, but she's really really good.

BitVyper · 12-21-2008, 03:02 AM

As I said, she's not particularly evil, but she's still willing to hire an assassin to go murder a hunter for her, then steal and destroy some poor guy's manuscript. All of this, I'll remind you, is in defense of a race of literal unholy abominations who are actually bringing about armageddon through their actions. I understand that makes it self-defense, but the fact that she's conflicted over it does not make her "really really good." It makes her slightly less of an asshole than the rest of the vampires.

Anyway, none of that stuff was really what I was referring to originally anyway. I just think she's a sissy fucking Toreador - a matter which I'm only being halfway serious about, so don't get too worked up about it.

All of that said; her poetry is just objectively bad.

Mirai Gen · 12-21-2008, 03:25 AM

Well yeah.

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It makes her slightly less of an asshole than the rest of the vampires.

Inasmuch as Vampires are inherently cruel evil beasts and in Vampire: Bloodlines you get humanity for doing overwhelmingly good things whereas nothing happens if you're evil, yeah, that's the point.

Odjn · 12-21-2008, 06:47 AM

Granted that the hunter was actively seeking her out and trying to find out if she was a vampire and if she WAS she'd have killed her no matter how nice she was. And seeing how nice she was I'd be surprised if she'd ever actually done something wrong other than suckin' blood to survive. Also if there was a way to survive without killing the hunter (who theoretically is immune to shit like nonlethal dominate/dementation unless you're really good at it, and can't be persuaded or intimidated or seduced) she'd do it. But there isn't. And that guy's manuscript was basically the entire Masquerade and that threatens the extinction of all vampires everywhere and also I believe the very beginning of Gehenna.

Yeah, the poetry is pretty awful. But it's nice to see that somewhere in the WoD there's still people who are good.

Krylo · 12-21-2008, 06:51 AM

To be totally fair, the hunters aren't exactly nice folk, either. I mean most of the Hollywood vampires don't actually kill anyone/do anything bad at all. Unless you count acting.

Yet they still go there to murder them all.

They also do some other stuff later on that's insane/not good.

I mean, sure, it's self-preservation to kill hunters, but it's also not exactly a bad thing considering most of the hunters in that game are sociopathic killers who refuse to talk anything out with anyone ever, regardless of the size of their humanity score or even whether they're human.

Further, having that guy's manuscript stolen and destroyed actually saves his life. If any other vampires had found out about it, he'd have been dead before he hit the ground.

I mean, literally, the only interactions you have with her involve her asking you to save lives, even if said saving of lives happens to involve the taking of a lesser number of sociopathic lives.

Amake · 12-21-2008, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Odjn

Also to be fair you'd have to be really, really attached to your non-sexuality to not be attracted to VV! Or have a low humanity.

I don't have a thing for humongous breasts, that also helps.

ReaperRain · 12-21-2008, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante Must Die

Well you've been singing praises and inflating DFM balloons and you only signed up to the forum to tell him what a good job he's doing. I figure that counts.

Eh, touche *waves DFM sparkler* Although I would've thought your #1 fan would be someone who's followed the story from the start.

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Originally Posted by Jagos

Seriously, when's the wedding?

Pfft, you're just jealous because I have DFM-themed merchandise and you don't.
Oh, and the #1 fan thing too.

synkr0nized · 12-21-2008, 11:18 AM

Hey, some updates and still as enjoyable as ever. Thanks for the continued efforts, DFM.

tzimisce · 12-21-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

To be totally fair, the hunters aren't exactly nice folk, either. I mean most of the Hollywood vampires don't actually kill anyone/do anything bad at all. Unless you count acting.

Yet they still go there to murder them all.

They also do some other stuff later on that's insane/not good.

I mean, sure, it's self-preservation to kill hunters, but it's also not exactly a bad thing considering most of the hunters in that game are sociopathic killers who refuse to talk anything out with anyone ever, regardless of the size of their humanity score or even whether they're human.

Further, having that guy's manuscript stolen and destroyed actually saves his life. If any other vampires had found out about it, he'd have been dead before he hit the ground.

I mean, literally, the only interactions you have with her involve her asking you to save lives, even if said saving of lives happens to involve the taking of a lesser number of sociopathic lives.

The thin blood who hangs out at the santa monica pier is hardly a sociopath. And the game hardly goes into detail about what motivates the hunters to kill vampires, so they're not necessarily just assholes.

12-21-2008, 02:29 AM	#582
Mirai Gen We are Geth. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 14,032	Bit: She also specifically tells you repeatedly not to kill anyone other than Chastity in that mission, as well as her friend David and just about everyone else except the targets. She also gets really really upset if you do kill anyone, pressing you about what kind of horrible thing you did. So yeah, she's a seductive kinda manipulative chick, but she's really really good. __________________

12-21-2008, 03:02 AM	#583
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	As I said, she's not particularly evil, but she's still willing to hire an assassin to go murder a hunter for her, then steal and destroy some poor guy's manuscript. All of this, I'll remind you, is in defense of a race of literal unholy abominations who are actually bringing about armageddon through their actions. I understand that makes it self-defense, but the fact that she's conflicted over it does not make her "really really good." It makes her slightly less of an asshole than the rest of the vampires. Anyway, none of that stuff was really what I was referring to originally anyway. I just think she's a sissy fucking Toreador - a matter which I'm only being halfway serious about, so don't get too worked up about it. All of that said; her poetry is just objectively bad. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

12-21-2008, 06:51 AM	#586
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	To be totally fair, the hunters aren't exactly nice folk, either. I mean most of the Hollywood vampires don't actually kill anyone/do anything bad at all. Unless you count acting. Yet they still go there to murder them all. They also do some other stuff later on that's insane/not good. I mean, sure, it's self-preservation to kill hunters, but it's also not exactly a bad thing considering most of the hunters in that game are sociopathic killers who refuse to talk anything out with anyone ever, regardless of the size of their humanity score or even whether they're human. Further, having that guy's manuscript stolen and destroyed actually saves his life. If any other vampires had found out about it, he'd have been dead before he hit the ground. I mean, literally, the only interactions you have with her involve her asking you to save lives, even if said saving of lives happens to involve the taking of a lesser number of sociopathic lives. __________________ I am very tired.

12-21-2008, 11:18 AM	#589
synkr0nized synk-ism Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: throughout the Wired Posts: 6,857	<3 Hey, some updates and still as enjoyable as ever. Thanks for the continued efforts, DFM. __________________ Find love.