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Unread 06-18-2010, 01:42 PM   #581
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If he has that much freakin power, why the hell does he think Ichigo would become that much stronger just from learning one new technique. Pre-caccoon he was able to hurt Aizen by giving him the finger, while Ichigo just sat there helplessly. Plus apparently he knows the technique himself, this is sounding like a really stupid plan

edit: and why would you be launched out ahead of time? If time moves faster you should get there faster
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Unread 06-18-2010, 02:18 PM   #582
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From what Isshin was saying at the end of the chapter it seems that special Bankai training actually screwed Ichigo over. Since he forced Zangetsu out and basically took the short cut to Bankai he never really got access to his entire power. It sort of makes sense for that training method to have a couple of downsides apart from being potentially deadly. After all this is a Shonen Anime which is supposed to be at least partly about hard work overcoming impossible odds. No way would a short cut training method result in the same power as the tough as hell training method. The fact that even with that handicap he still has more raw power than a captain means that once he actually subdues his sword the proper way he might have stupidly insane power like Aizen.
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Unread 06-19-2010, 12:00 AM   #583
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Still doesn't make since that they plan on training for 3 months without food or water.
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Unread 06-19-2010, 01:58 PM   #584
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Perhaps Isshin is just that awesome. Alternatively we know souls can get hungry if they have any spiritual power but that doesn't mean they can't go without food. If you think about it the stronger a soul is the longer it might be able to last without food or water. Although the training could theoretically stress them quite a bit and make it much harder. Of course knowing Kubo there is probably a way to make food and water out of the stuff around them.
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Unread 06-19-2010, 03:38 PM   #585
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but now that I think about it, if thats the reason we still have a problem. Remember Ichigo hemorages spiritual energy like a facet
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He hemorrhages spiritually energy but the actual quantity that he has doesn't change unless he actively uses it. Everybody seems to work under that premise. Basically there are two measures of power. The amount you let out that other people can feel and the amount you posses internally that is used up when you fight or otherwise exert yourself. Ichigo just happens to let out a ridiculous amount naturally without effecting his total amount. In other words he regenerates his internal spiritual energy extremely quickly. Remember the beginning of the Vizard training when they were trying to drain him of his spiritual energy? They could clearly sense the amount of spiritual pressure he put out so they must have been measuring the total amount of internal spiritual energy he had. (I.E. the amount of energy he could actually make use of when exerting himself before running out.) Time with out food would probably effect spiritual energy regeneration but Ichigo's is so high to begin with he should be fine for quite some time. Unless the training really really drains him. Isshin is the one that really has the problem because he's actively depleting the spiritual energy he can exert. Of course his 3 month estimate could just be 3 months until his internal energy is finally depleted enough that he can't maintain his external spiritual pressure anymore. In which case he'd be weak but not completely devoid of spiritual energy.
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Don't quote me on this, but I believe Ichigo's gotten better at controlling his spirit energy.

As for time moving faster, time moves faster in that space. That space does not flow together with other space. Ergo, if you emerge into new space, you can emerge anywhere or anywhen. The reason you're knocked ahead, although I could have sworn they were knocked back, is because this thing ejects you somewhere you don't want to go.

Lastly, a good point was made on another forum that I happened to have read: In this time, Ichigo could be taught something more tactically diverse & visually appealing, like Kido.
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Unread 06-20-2010, 01:31 AM   #589
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Since when were you under the impression that this wasn't Dragonball Z?
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Unread 06-20-2010, 01:43 AM   #590
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If I was less lazy, I'd make a full Aizen Meme thing with Aizen's cocoon falling off to reveal Freeza.
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