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Unread 05-25-2008, 11:33 PM   #51
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Hey, in the 1970s there was a well regarded theory about the Nazis and how they searched for artefacts like the Grail. Not such a popular theory now, but it's still around and clearly influenced the films.
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Unread 05-25-2008, 11:46 PM   #52
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Hey, in the 1970s there was a well regarded theory about the Nazis and how they searched for artefacts like the Grail. Not such a popular theory now, but it's still around and clearly influenced the films.
It also influenced the sequel to Wolfenstein 3D, Spear of Destiny. But really, it's fun to imagine Hitler as a crazy power-hungry ancient relic hunting madman. Just like it's fun to imagine any country developing ( a psychic warfare research department).
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Unread 05-26-2008, 01:01 AM   #53
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Someone should mention that to the Russian Communist party, as they seemed to have missed that memo. Apparently they're trying to get the movie banned in Russia due to historical inaccuracy, distortion of the nature of the Cold War, and capitalist propaganda of the evils of communism.
Oh yes. Because I'm absolutely certain there were never any films made in Russia that put Americans in a bad light. Nope. None. ESPECIALLY not any films set during the Cold War. Noooooooo. Because no one would ever do that, and this is totally the first time America's ever made another country be the villain in an action film. Certainly the first time we've ever targeted Russians.
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Unread 05-26-2008, 01:03 AM   #54
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Oh yes. Because I'm absolutely certain there were never any films made in Russia that put Americans in a bad light. Nope. None. ESPECIALLY not any films set during the Cold War. Noooooooo. Because no one would ever do that, and this is totally the first time America's ever made another country be the villain in an action film. Certainly the first time we've ever targeted Russians.
There's a difference between doing that when we're basically one inch away from blowing each other to fine atomic bits and doing it when we're trying to be friendly with the power hungry rising nation creeping closer to facism with every step.
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Unread 05-26-2008, 01:14 AM   #55
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But that's irrelevant. Case in point: The rest of the Indy movies which distort the Nazis even though you were being friendly with the Germans (well West Germany anyway). Or Temple of Doom which shits over Hindu religion when we all loved India.
Or all the World War 2 movies which are mean to both the Germs and the British.
And other countries do the same thing.
You can make a claim if it's a real serious, meant to be accurate movie but it's Indiana Jones for cripes sake. If we're going down this route everybody in the world who disputes the Ark of the Covenant being a super powerful artefact or those crazy Indian stones from the second movie that did something I don't remember can start taking action too.
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Unread 05-26-2008, 01:19 AM   #56
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Oh yes. Because I'm absolutely certain there were never any films made in Russia that put Americans in a bad light. Nope. None. ESPECIALLY not any films set during the Cold War. Noooooooo. Because no one would ever do that, and this is totally the first time America's ever made another country be the villain in an action film. Certainly the first time we've ever targeted Russians.
To be fair, I doubt any of those films were ever shown in your country. If Empire Capitalism the West can ban Communist Propaganda Soviet films that put down the United States then I don't see any reason why the situation couldn't be reversed.

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Unread 05-26-2008, 01:50 AM   #57
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To be fair, I doubt any of those films were ever shown in your country. If Empire Capitalism the West can ban Communist Propaganda Soviet films that put down the United States then I don't see any reason why the situation couldn't be reversed.
Okay okay, point taken.
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Unread 05-26-2008, 02:13 AM   #58
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To be fair, I doubt any of those films were ever shown in your country. If Empire Capitalism the West can ban Communist Propaganda Soviet films that put down the United States then I don't see any reason why the situation couldn't be reversed.
Well, currently it couldn't because the Russian Communist Party is laughably out of power.
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Unread 05-26-2008, 03:06 AM   #59
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To be fair, I doubt any of those films were ever shown in your country. If Empire Capitalism the West can ban Communist Propaganda Soviet films that put down the United States then I don't see any reason why the situation couldn't be reversed.
Disregarding all else these films aren't about propaganda. They need ridiculous over the top villains. That does tie into the comment I made before this movie came out that Nazi's are better film villains cause you can make them ridiculously over the top and no one cares but still, I doubt anyone would take this films depiction of the USSR as accurate.
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Unread 05-26-2008, 04:39 AM   #60
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Clearly Indiana Jones V will feature gray Martians as the villains as Indy tries to overcome their plan for the rapid heat of planet Earth to create an environment suitable for their cloning processes. Not only is that over the top, but it is also politically correct!

Except for the Martians, but fuck the Martians.
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