After The Hype - Page 6

Mesden · 11-10-2009, 08:51 PM

Yeah, surely anyone who hates Halo is irrational.

edit: I also like how you cherrypicked the most competitive and outdated series of the bunch in counterstrike, while ignoring the other games on that list that did everything Halo did atleast a half year before hand, and in most cases several years before. Halo's innovation came solely from being on a console, and its only competition was, as you said, an N64 game.

Fifthfiend · 11-10-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jagos

Console FPS hadn't really advanced past GoldenEye on the N64 to skew the Perfect Darks and TimeSplitters. There was basically nothing to fill the darkness for the Xbox, nor to allow us to really see what the FPS genre could do. Computer games had Wolfenstein and a few other games. Us consoles... Yeah, deprived.

Timesplitters was a million times more fun than Halo has ever been.

EDIT: I mean Timesplitters 2 I guess, I never played TS1.

krogothwolf · 11-10-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

Timesplitters was a million times more fun than Halo has ever been.

EDIT: I mean Timesplitters 2 I guess, I never played TS1.

I loved Timesplitters 2! damn that brings back memories!

Fifthfiend · 11-10-2009, 09:00 PM

That fucking goldfish.

krogothwolf · 11-10-2009, 09:21 PM

It's all about the Monkeys man!

Jagos · 11-10-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk

See, no, I think out of everything you just said, the last line was probably the only true bit. It was probably the only major game on the Xbox, a console that finally got online multiplayer off the ground. Halo rode on that success, more than anything else. That's literally the only thing it had going for it, for the first time, console players could fight others online, an experiance PC gamers had had for years, thanks to Counterstrike, Unreal, Quake, Half-Life, etc.

Halo didn't actually add anything to that side of gaming, it just happened to be there when it became more popular. Everything that Halo did, as far as I can see, had already been done by all of its predacessors. And let's face it, there were a LOT of predacessors. If any of those games had been realised on the Xbox at that time, with online modes, they would have become the "Game of the Decade" instead. Halo did nothing really.

*scratches head*

So... There was no online multi for the Xbox and because, as I mentioned, the main issue was the fact that the best game at the time was on the N64, and we're also forgetting the PC versions because at the time PCs were more for applications than gaming (bear with me), You're dismissing everything I said about the console market being deprived of a good FPS title save for Timesplitters 1 (2000) and Perfect Dark?

I wasn't arguing that the PC scene wasn't more complex. Hell, Deus Ex came out around the same time as Halo. But you asked why Halo was so huge and it's mainly to do with the fact that the Xbox console
1) Needed a good game that attracted a lot of people. FPSes and sports do that with RPGs in a close third.
2) It wasn't done on the console market before.
3) It was unique to Microsoft at the time.

Kerensky answered the rest so I'm dropping the Halo subject since I don't really want to turn this into a big huge Halo war.

Marc v4.0 · 11-10-2009, 11:23 PM

I got my moneys worth with all of the Halo series. I had a lot of fun with the crazy and low-thought killing parts, I really enjoyed matching up against my friends for the first time ever (I'd never had much fun before in vs on most games), While the story wasn't a finely crafted godsend, It interested me.

I don't listen to hype, I mostly Ignore commercials and video teasers and such unless I'm actually interested to see the gameplay or the like. Hype is just marketing, if a big D didn't talk their game up and down the wall it would be a shock. Yeah, it can lead to certain expectations, but that's why I don't get into Hype.

***Fenris*** · 11-11-2009, 12:27 AM

I like Halo because it's fun.

does that make me a bad person

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope · 11-11-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

I like Halo because it's fun.

does that make me a bad person

No.

You're bad for other reasons.

Fifthfiend · 11-11-2009, 12:36 AM

No that's pretty much the main one.

11-10-2009, 08:51 PM	#51
Mesden There is no Toph, only Melon Lord! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inside of a box inside of a smaller box Posts: 4,310	Yeah, surely anyone who hates Halo is irrational. edit: I also like how you cherrypicked the most competitive and outdated series of the bunch in counterstrike, while ignoring the other games on that list that did everything Halo did atleast a half year before hand, and in most cases several years before. Halo's innovation came solely from being on a console, and its only competition was, as you said, an N64 game. __________________ I can tell you're lying. Last edited by Mesden; 11-10-2009 at 08:55 PM.

11-10-2009, 09:00 PM	#54
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11-10-2009, 11:23 PM	#57
Marc v4.0 Fight Me, Nerds Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,470	I got my moneys worth with all of the Halo series. I had a lot of fun with the crazy and low-thought killing parts, I really enjoyed matching up against my friends for the first time ever (I'd never had much fun before in vs on most games), While the story wasn't a finely crafted godsend, It interested me. I don't listen to hype, I mostly Ignore commercials and video teasers and such unless I'm actually interested to see the gameplay or the like. Hype is just marketing, if a big D didn't talk their game up and down the wall it would be a shock. Yeah, it can lead to certain expectations, but that's why I don't get into Hype. __________________

11-11-2009, 12:36 AM	#60
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	No that's pretty much the main one. __________________ check out my buttspresso

11-11-2009, 12:27 AM	#58
*Fenris* Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Coast Posts: 6,806	I like Halo because it's fun. does that make me a bad person