Pokémon Umbral Discussion 7: Plusle and Minun Equals Zero

[Menarker]

Everything else is pretty much already targetting Phantomere. Little point on using a OHKO attack if the combined attacks already would knock him out or if he had so little stamina afterwards that it becomes a waste.

[Dracorion]

It's not a 100% OHKO attack, and the other attacks would probably be redirected even if it did OHKO. Besides, this ain't some regular Narcham. This is a goddamn Ruin General. The combined attacks probably can't kill him. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe bring him to half health. Maybe.

And Gem, I totally forgot about Rachel.

[Astral Harmony]

Don't forget that Rachel's only seventeen years old. But I'll make the beach episode her birthday.

And yes, Ruin Generals are extremely powerful. In Phantomere's case, he only seems like he might be easily defeated because he's not very big. The Poison and Water generals are much, much bigger than Phantomere.

EDIT: Working on post. Kinda halfway finished.

EDIT 2: Sorry, guys, I won't be able to finish tonight. Bulbapedia crapped itself (hopefully not permanently, they make this RP a lot easier to run) and I think Geminex would be very cross with me if I were to finish before he got his post in. Great stuff I'm reading from you guys, though. But next time, I'm definitely not making fights against this many opponents. It's a doozy of a chore.

[Geminex]

Yeah, sorry about this. Dad's come home from a business trip recently, and he's doing e-mails. Lots of e-mails. I'll get on in the mornings and evenings, maybe in the afternoons for a minute or two.

What I'm thinking I'll start doing, is write summaries of what I'm intending to do that round, then flesh that out when I've got time.

Anyway, I can post now, so here we gooooo...!

Edit: And one more thing.

How are we handling multi-target attacks? Do attacks like blizzard really hit all enemies? Or just two, like they're supposed to? What about attacks like earthquake? If they're not focused, with they hit all enemies and all allies? Two enemies and one ally?
And if they hit everything, is their power decreased? Or do they do standard damage? Please clarify.

What I'd recommend is that everything like Blizzard and Earthquake hits two enemies and one or no allies, depending on the attack.

Self destruct attacks, on the other hand...
If explosion really damaged everything on the field, all enemies, all allies, they'd have much more of an edge. Really, last-resort sort of thing.

Cause I could totally get behind blizzard killing two Monoke. All six? Bit unfair.

[Dracorion]

If multi-target attacks only hit two enemies, what's to stop me from using Earthquake on just, say, Phantomere and Wyatt rather than the Ruin-types? And the ally target can be a flying-type. See what I'm getting at?

Unless you mean for AB to pick the targets, in which case you're asking for multi-target attacks to be inneffective.

I like 'em better hitting everything.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Shaymin's Seed Flare seems a bit more effective here! It converts pollution especially those in the air and purifies it while creating a powerful blast... and this place ranked and reeked of bugs, ghosts and zombies! It's bound to be potent!

D'aaaaaaaaaw. Look at our little boy coming up with bullshit to make his attacks stronger!

I'm so proud.

[Menarker]

Just using Bulbapedia's own info on why Seed Flare is the most powerful grass move. Not actually intending to sincerely make it any more powerful than AB may want it to be. (Although if the proc happens, score)

[Dracorion]

I think you mean you took the description from the anime.

In which case, I should throw a bucket of water on everyone or just use Rainy Day and watch all electric attacks get a huge power boost!

Also, it's thematically appropriate that Tyranitar get a boost to attack for berzerking.

[Astral Harmony]

My mom woke me up in the middle of the night with a phone call. Oh, well, at least I got her to decide to mail me my PS3. Finally I can play all these PS3 games I've been buying up to now but couldn't play like God of War III, inFamous, and Cross Edge. Yeah, I know Cross Edge is just a crappy crossover RPG but surprisingly, they've put a lot of characters in there that I actually know how they are right off the bat.

Blizzard will normally hit two enemies and be focused into hitting one for more power and a somewhat higher freeze chance.

Earthquake will normally hit two enemies and one ally, unless you Focus it, in which case it will hit only one enemy and no allies. You can't do it any other way. And you can choose the two enemy Pokémon Earthquake damages, but I get to choose which allied Pokémon (if you're a trainer, it's usually your other Pokémon) so it's best to have that motherfucker flying, levitating, or just able to take that kind of backlash.

Explosion and Self Destruct (mostly Explosion 'cause if you're going to blow yourself up, go out with a really big bang, eh?), believe it or not, can be Focused onto one target. It'll still take out the bomber. If it isn't Focused, expect it to only affect all allies and enemies on one side of the room. Remember, left side is all Ruin Pokémon, Wyatt and Phantomere. Right side is Mononoke, Zombies, Whitney, Harliette and Phantomere.

There are some moves, like Blizzard, that in my guide say that power is decreased when hitting two Pokémon, so I'll rely on the guide for shit like that.

Seed Flare actually does work that way. Believe it or not, I've seen the cartoon movies, including Giratina and the Sky Warrior where that move is used and explained. I just find that part amusing, imagining that Pokémon rolling around on the dirty floor to get powered up. And then there's the Pokébrids 'n' shit like...

Wyatt: "Damn, that attack was far stronger than it should have been! What happened?"
Whitney: "Brother dear, you forgot to sweep and mop the floor."
Harliette: "Are you sure it's them I should be murdering?"

Harliette's been promoted from day one. She's the obligatory joke character that will get away and face you guys again and again until the final battle with her where it's probably somewhat emotional but definitely a difficult battle.

[Geminex]

If multi-target attacks only hit two enemies, what's to stop me from using Earthquake on just, say, Phantomere and Wyatt rather than the Ruin-types? And the ally target can be a flying-type. See what I'm getting at?

Nothing's stopping you! But you can't use your attack to have a 60% chance of flinching all enemies, or use one powered-up attack to kill all enemy monoke.

[Menarker]

You know... the only thing that bugs me about the sleep powder choice on Omnisroth is that its going to wake up the exact same turn due to sandstorm hitting everything.