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Unread 05-04-2012, 01:23 PM   #51
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Reading through the rest of thread's spoilers and I saw this bullshit
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YMMV on whether this is a good thing or not then, as according to word of god Coulson is still alive. Fury faked his death in order to push the team into working together to avenge him. It's partly pointed out in the film when it's mentioned that his trading cards weren't really found on his body like Fury said.
The cards are one thing because he gets called out on them in the movie, but has this actually been confirmed in an interview? Just seems like something that would be hard to walk back from come the next movie.
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Unread 05-04-2012, 02:06 PM   #52
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My one main complaint is something I had been wondering before, and they confirmed that on a team with superheroes or the super equipped, regular humans just end up feeling out of place. I mean, Captain America was literally reduced to taking on a whopping THREE MOOKS at the SAME TIME as his big ol' hero moment, while Hulk got to punch a battleship in the face. I don't really know how to correct for this though, so kudos for making it fun nonetheless.
I'm sorry, but did you miss the part where Black Widow completely out played and fooled a trickster god? And the part where Hawkeye got to blow Loki up and sent him crashing into a building like a fool? Sure they may not be taking down building sized bioships but that's what Hulk and Thor are for, whereas everyone else has varied skills for different purposes. The fact that they can even be part of the same team as literal gods and still hold their own when they could have all just been given some ironman armour to fight with is testament to the fact they're already badass enough.

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Reading through the rest of thread's spoilers and I saw this bullshit

The cards are one thing because he gets called out on them in the movie, but has this actually been confirmed in an interview? Just seems like something that would be hard to walk back from come the next movie.
I'm not sure where I saw it now, probably best to google it and find out if it's actually official. It's a comic book franchise character though, do they ever stay dead?
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Unread 05-04-2012, 05:16 PM   #55
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I'm sorry, but did you miss the part where Black Widow completely out played and fooled a trickster god? And the part where Hawkeye got to blow Loki up and sent him crashing into a building like a fool? Sure they may not be taking down building sized bioships but that's what Hulk and Thor are for, whereas everyone else has varied skills for different purposes. The fact that they can even be part of the same team as literal gods and still hold their own when they could have all just been given some ironman armour to fight with is testament to the fact they're already badass enough.
I see your point, I guess my concern was that during the big battle at the end they didn't give them a chance to actually use their skills (aside from Hawkeye). They took the agile femme fatale trickster assassin and made her fight in the open, and they took the great military guy and similarly left him alone most of the time fighting single file mooks while the city around them got demolished. There was no real drama to their parts of the fight because we know they aren't going to get got by an alien and they weren't affecting the outcome of the overall warzone beyond their one corner. My super tank thing was admittedly glib, but if it had been Thor, Iron Man, and Hulk wrecking the giant bio-ships outside and Cap, Hawkeye, and Black Widow fighting their way up Stark Tower to shut down the portal it would've given everyone an opportunity to shine in their natural environments.

And again, what we got was all still super exciting! Cap was just my favorite single-hero Marvel movie, so I probably just got my hopes up a little bit for his parts.
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I'm not sure where I saw it now, probably best to google it and find out if it's actually official. It's a comic book franchise character though, do they ever stay dead?
I did a cursory search, but all I found was an interview from a year ago with the guy who played Coulson saying that Whedon had promised he wouldn't die, which could have either been spoiler protecting or Whedon hadn't actually finalized the death yet. Beyond that I found nothing pro-life, but my Google-fu might just be weak.

If I had to guess, I could see Lt. Robin (/whatever Cobie Smulders character name was) taking over the Coulson position, only to die in 2018 during Avengers 2 and continue the cycle.
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But isn't that when you pull out the "Invulnerable Mega Tank With An Opening Just Big Enough For A Supersoldier With A Shield, An Archer, And A Hot Chick In A Catsuit To Sneak In And Take Over"? That's a common thing, right?
*Shrug* People would probably just complain instead about why couldn't Iron Man/Thor just fly through there to destroy it faster? At the end it seemed like everyone did what they were good at though. Thor did lightning, Iron Man flew around and shot lasers at everything, Hulk....smashed, Hawkeye was sniping enemies from up high with his arrows, Black Widow did acrobatics to catch a ride on one of the Chitauri's vehicles, while Steve was the strategist of the group, helped assist police officers with evacuating the civilians to safety, and fought off the ground mooks.

As for Agent Coulson's death, well they could always rule it as a Life Model Decoy that Loki killed instead as a possible out(hell, they even had Stark mention "Life Model Decoy" when Coulson called him in the beginning of the movie).
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It was the best movie I have ever seen in my life.
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Unread 05-04-2012, 11:33 PM   #58
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This movie was fantastic from beginning to end, to after the end, and frankly I think Whedon did a kick-ass job.

Hulk had the funniest moments, in my opinion.
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I enjoyed the movie a lot, and none of my comic nerd-rage alarms went off. The only bad thing I have to say about it is... did we really need so many comic relief moments once the team was together? I liked all the little banter before shit got real, but other than Hulk punching Thor after taking down one of the titan-ship things, I could have gone without it.
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Unread 05-05-2012, 12:14 AM   #60
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You could have gone without Hulk interrupting Loki's speech and tossing him around like a rag doll? 'Cause that shit was absolutely hilarious.
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