The Dark Knight Rises

[Bells]

Someone has talent

[Magus]

Originally Posted by Bells

Someone has talent

Sheesh that's combining together the Nolanverse, the sequel to the Dark Knight that might have happened if Ledger hadn't died, and Mark Hammil's take of the Joker from the Diniverse...basically everything good without any of the bad.

[Bells]

the best part is that it's not even Hammil's voice is just some really talented guy doing an impression. Really outstanding stuff..

[Bells]

Just a tossed idea cause the movie left itself just open enough for me to go there.

Oh, and Of course.... SPOILERS BELOW!!!!!!!!!!!

The end of TDKR is open enough... Batman is now a Symbol, Robin could become the next Batman, or he could simply follow in his shoes and creates his own Identity (Nightwing for example). This franchise is over of course, i don't think it's coming back... i think DC wants to push the Multiverse thing and try a Justice League movie, so they need to rework Batman for that...

But here is a funny thought that came to me when i placed the end of the movie next to the scene in the beginning with Bruce with a Cane... in a way that i think could even allow for a multiverse. So hear me out...

let Robin become Nightwing and work Gotham. At some point, it becomes too much for him (a new villain takes it to the next level) and at that point we're introduced to Terry Mcginnis and his story.

you can put 10-15 after the Dark Knight trilogy and that would work just fine.

At that point you have Terry's story and Nightwing not being able to handle this new kid who wants to be Batman for his own cause and reason... at that point, Bruce comes back in order to prevent the Batman Legacy to become tainted by a Hotheaded kid with a bloody vengeance in mind.

The catch is that Old Bruce from Batman Beyond should be Played by Kevin Conroy on screen.

Just let Joseph Gordon Levitt be Nightwing, dude was great as Robin Blake. Bring in Conroy as the perfect Batman role the man deserves and CAN play on a big screen and give Batman a new story that otherwise might never see the Theater release it could deserve.

I can't say for sure it would be great or even good... but i would sure as hell be Hyped if i heard something like this was in the works.

Hell, this might be pushing it but... if you wanna go full blown all out here, just Bring Hammil as the Old Joker. He can do it...

[POS Industries]

I have a better idea: Let's make Batman movies entirely unrelated to Nolan's films from here on out.

[Bells]

Oh it's certainly going to take a few years for them to reboot Batman... SPECIALLY if this new Superman movie kicks in right.

But on that note... the new Superman movie is also a "Nolan"... so if you like DC Heroes, you're stuck with the guy for a few more years. SPECIALLY if this Superman Reboot is made to allow a Multiverse.

But since Batman is a decent Milking cow right now and they can't reboot the franchise right now... they just might try to pull a spin off or something else from within this world.... Batman Beyond just seems like a solid place to put your money in THAT case.

EDIT: hell, as far as Nightwing goes, there is even some Fanart going around already

[Magus]

I'm pretty sure they are already touting the next one as a reboot, although on the other hand Hollywood does like "safe" things and a reboot is something of a risk. But so is going forward with the same world/plot with new actors for all the roles or whatever. Like Blake as Batman or even just Nightwing is a 50/50 thing on whether or not people accept that.

A reboot I think would by necessity have to be somewhat lighter in tone. Not that the plots shouldn't have a certain momentousness to them (although maybe not as grim/ponderous as the Nolanverse movies), but they're going to have to move into a realm where the more fantastical elements are fair game or something like 90% of his Rogues Gallery is rejected. They'll have to allow in the supernatural or super-science elements or villains like Clayface, Mr. Freeze, Man-Bat, etc. won't work. Even characters like Poison Ivy or whatever are difficult to do. And the remaining characters seem similar to the others (the Riddler is like the side of the Joker where he was creating puzzles and leaving clues, Black Mask is like his sadistic side, the Penguin is basically just another mobster, etc.)

A lighter tone might be fun to do, too. It can be difficult to put both grim seriousness and comic relief in the same movie, but it's doable and it would be neat to see something more along the lines of The Animated Series. Like there is a balance somewhere between the Nolanverse and something like Brave and the Bold where they can do a "lighter" Batman movie while still making it seem like the events of the movie are important.

[Bells]

I think it will be fine as long as they fix the visual of the Batman and let leak a bit of fantasy into the world...

Like, instead of using super serious military armor, let Batman create a Kevlar-like cloth that is super resistant and cheap to make. So that he won't allow the large populace have it as to prevent bad guys from having it.

And let us stop the age of the Black eye paint. Just cover his eyes. Like in the Cartoon mask. Done right it will look menacing and awesome. Also, right now, Batman can be defeated with a well timed Flash of light... also would allow him to have his "eye gadgets" like in the Arkham games.

And learn to use the cape! The Nolan movies the cape gets less and less care, in this last one it's just there cause "its part of the costume"... batman is a detective ninja, the cape is to cover his arms and confuse enemies while cloaking in the shadows. Allow him to do so!

If they do at least that in a reboot, i'll be ok with it.

[Magus]

Yeah, one thing I liked about this movie is there was much more of the gadgetry. You have the robot knee-brace that lets him kick through walls, the EMP device, the Batcopter which was pretty awesome...with a new movie you could do all kinds of stuff just with the gadgets. Like his cape should be resistant to acid, for instance, like in the cartoon. And like you said he should have eye coverings. I know the main thing with these movies is they wanted to focus more on the characters and their motivations but there's no reason you can't also have a bunch of cool gadgetry.

[Bells]

one thing i could never 100% get past in these batman movies is that a speck of dust could at any moment hit Batman in the eye (or just the wind during the Batpod sequences) and that would be enough... hell, even pepper spray could take him down.

As if there was a cover, he could do things like have perfect night vision that is par for the character and just much more practical...