Explosions at Boston Marathon

[POS Industries]

So they're still looking into this "person of interest," but they don't actually have any hard evidence linking him to the crime whatsoever.

I'm still chalking this one up to a case of "being arab at the scene of a bombing" until there's actually something substantive here, and I'm certainly dismayed that merely being arab at the scene of a bombing is apparently reason enough to have a search warrant for your apartment obtained.

[RobinStarwing]

Originally Posted by Sifright

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...otes-reactions

I read this article and it struck a bit of a chord with me in how true it rings.

I want proof of what he says about how the US does the same thing. As far as I know, this kind of thing is against the Geneva Conventions and I think we are still a signatory member.

So, he needs to cite sources that are mainstream newspaper sources rather than online blogs were people can spew shit. I want hard facts. The sources listed either are drawing conclusions from published articles that don't even make those conclusions or are listening to propaganda from journalists paid by or working with the Taliban/Al Quaeda to disseminate misinformation/propaganda to further their cause.

[Bob The Mercenary]

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/po...other_suspects

Probably the same thing as has been posted, but apparently the Saudi is no longer a person of interest, along with everyone else.

[Osterbaum]

I want proof of what he says about how the US does the same thing.

Proof like any wars in recent memory the US might have started? Or any funding to extremist groups in the past? The multiple drone attacks going on all the time in Qatar, Yemen and Pakistan? And the list goes on, take your pick.

[mauve]

According to CBS News, authorities have determined that the Saudi national who was held for questioning and whose home was searched was NOT involved--rather, it turns out he was an injured victim of the bomb.

[RobinStarwing]

Originally Posted by Osterbaum

Proof like any wars in recent memory the US might have started? Or any funding to extremist groups in the past? The multiple drone attacks going on all the time in Qatar, Yemen and Pakistan? And the list goes on, take your pick.

I think you miss what I am talking about in my request.

I want proof that rescuers and civilians were attacked willingly with the intent to hurt civilians as per the claims made. I can understand cover-ups but so far the only name names and no citing of local paper sources. There is also the fact that their Researchers could be looking and interpreting what they find to fit their world view.

I am not arguing the funding of extremist groups or anything but my knowledge of that is so far only from the Cold War and not many others in recent memory. I may be missing holes in my knowledge and memory. As to the recent wars; it's war...crap happens.

What happened in Boston was a deliberate attack on civilians and government officials to instill terror and fear through the use of cowardly bombs.

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Mauve Mage

According to CBS News, authorities have determined that the Saudi national who was held for questioning and whose home was searched was NOT involved--rather, it turns out he was an injured victim of the bomb.

Yeah, that was pretty much the most obvious scenario and it's horrible that he had to undergo even more trauma as a result.

[Magus]

Originally Posted by RobinStarwing

I think you miss what I am talking about in my request.

I want proof that rescuers and civilians were attacked willingly with the intent to hurt civilians as per the claims made. I can understand cover-ups but so far the only name names and no citing of local paper sources. There is also the fact that their Researchers could be looking and interpreting what they find to fit their world view.

I am not arguing the funding of extremist groups or anything but my knowledge of that is so far only from the Cold War and not many others in recent memory. I may be missing holes in my knowledge and memory. As to the recent wars; it's war...crap happens.

What happened in Boston was a deliberate attack on civilians and government officials to instill terror and fear through the use of cowardly bombs.

Shh, it's Glenn Greenwald. Writing articles like that is his entire schtick.

[shiney]

Robin, what does intent matter if innocent people still end up dying? The US perpetrates a program of targeting and killing suspected insurgents with reckless disregard for collateral damage. There are mountains of documented evidence on this. Don't try to make an equivalency that somehow the US is not as bad because we don't explicitly and purposefully target random civilians. At the end of the day, the survivors don't care if we say it was an accident. Their loved ones would be alive if we weren't flying around dropping bombs on shit in the name of "national security".

[Magus]

I don't think you can make an equivalency that they are AS bad, either, though. They're slightly less worse.

Greenwald is making an analogy. I think people forget that analogies are not one-to-one equivalencies. It is a comparison made to point out similarities, in this case, the end result is civilian deaths. It is not taking into account intentions.