Legend of Korra; Book two trailer

[Lumenskir]

I look forward to the day that we don't hold children's cartoon writers to unreasonable expectations and can recognize a show's flaws without swearing blood vengeance.

Please tell me what the "unreasonable expectations" are that you keep referring to.

Also, pointing out and trying to discuss a show's flaws does not automatically equate to...whatever you're trying to equate it to. It equates to trying to engage with art. Trying to stifle any discussion with "Well, they did ok for a thing meant for children" is a direct contributor to the whole ghettoization of the medium.

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

Please tell me what the "unreasonable expectations" are that you keep referring to.

Also, pointing out and trying to discuss a show's flaws does not automatically equate to...whatever you're trying to equate it to. It equates to trying to engage with art. Trying to stifle any discussion with "Well, they did ok for a thing meant for children" is a direct contributor to the whole ghettoization of the medium.

And coming into a discussion with "It's cute that you have high hopes for a show you enjoyed because you're wrong and it's shit" accomplishes what, exactly?

The show was hyped to the moon, you expected something that didn't happen, and got mad when it didn't. No one's saying that you have to like it, but just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's objectively bad. It means you have an opinion, which you're welcome to share, but don't fucking act like anyone who disagrees with you is destroying the soul of art.

[Sky Warrior Bob]

http://www.nick.com/videos/playlist/...-playlist.html

So if you don't know, Korra has started its new season. Both episodes of the premiere can be found at the official site, so if you missed them no big deal.

I almost missed out because it came out of nowhere, and hadn't seen much advertisement until the actual airing week.

Not a fan of how Asami seems shoehorned into this, but maybe it'll improve.

[Tev]

Originally Posted by Sky Warrior Bob

Not a fan of how Asami seems shoehorned into this, but maybe it'll improve.

Well, on the DVD commentary of the first season, the writers were pretty much done with her. They had written her off as joining the military forces and almost never showing up again. Then they changed their minds and decided to keep her around. They may not have decided yet what they are going to do with her.

[Locke cole]

Dammit, but Asami was like, my sec-...thir-... amongst the top several slots for my characters in that first season.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Well she seems to have more of a purpose now.

Anyone else been keeping up with this besides me?

[Aerozord]

I got caught up, they have nearly all the episodes on their website, which is good for people like me who often work when its on.

So far I'm liking this season better. Great humor and more interesting characters. Still dont have enough of a feel for the story to make a judgement though

[POS Industries]

Things have been picking up a lot with the past two episodes, and I'm honestly kind of digging the idea of an Avatar whose heart is certainly in the right place but ultimately has no idea how to go about achieving her goals in a way that won't ultimately make things worse. On top of that, even the story has been doing a fairly decent job of making that unclear to the viewer with the exception of Uncle Loki Palpatine obviously being the villain, but in this most recent episode has introduced a secondary villain without making it completely obvious to the audience precisely which character it is.

I mean, when you think about it, it's probably Varrick, but they've done such a good job making everyone fall in love with him and, on the surface, make it appear like his ideas really are the best course of action while framing President Raiko in all his scenes as a bad guy out to stop Korra at every turn that I can see that being tough for a lot of people to pick up on. The only dead giveaway is Mako's subplot (which, by the way, thank god he finally has one), and since the show is primarily shown via Korra's perspective (as well as riding the wave of well-deserved hate Mako got during the first season to keep the audience turned against him), one could be led to believe that he betrayed her when in fact he's the only one that hasn't been misled by the fast-talking, charismatic war profiteer.

These two episodes have done a lot to turn things around toward a good direction for this show, with the only real remaining gripe a lot of people seem to have being that Korra's a hotheaded idiot, which is the whole point of the story. It's different, it's not the same sort of lighthearted and fun adventure, and let's be honest the show in general just isn't as good as TLA, but it's still an interesting story and I'm curious to see where it goes.

[Aerozord]

Maybe just my experience but I look at Korra and think, yea that seems like a 16 year old girl going out of her way to create drama without realizing it.

Personally I hope both Raiko and Varrick are mostly self serving. Both doing morally questionable things to ensure their own career success, but nuanced that they do have valid arguments and do believe that they are doing the right thing.

Varrick definitely profits from independence but I believe he legitimately believes in the cause as well just as I think Raiko really does think they shouldn't interfere with internal matters.

Only thing that would make it better for me is if this whole terrorist thing is really the uncles xantos gambit

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

Only thing that would make it better for me is if this whole terrorist thing is really the uncles xantos gambit

That would mean that the entire plot thread for it would go absolutely nowhere. Why have all this stuff about it being the Agni Kais setting the bomb and the shady cops trying to bury his investigation and pin it on the Northern Water Tribe if it really was the NWT all along? Sure, Unalaq is still totally the big bad for this season, but he's not trying to start a world war and whoever is behind the bombing is. Raiko comes off vaguely villainous on the surface but so far all he's done is put the interests of the United Republic first and opted to not interfere in what has so far been a completely bloodless civil war. It even showed Unalaq straight up saying that he had no interest in engaging the rebels for the time being. He's basically been a totally reasonable president that's just been framed in an antagonistic light because he's up against a protagonist that's currently in the wrong, but we're not quite supposed to know she's wrong yet. Raiko was also shown wanting updates from Lin about the bombing case and whether or not they'd determined that the NWT was responsible, suggesting that he would be interested in acting against them if it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they've attacked Republic City.

Then you've got Varrick who's been pushing for armed conflict since day one, and he's been pretty blunt about why: money. First it was the fact that he apparently had a shipment of fish that he couldn't move because of the blockade. Now he's trying to get Asami to sell weapons to the southern rebels so he can get a cut of the profit for shipping them, he's producing a propaganda film with product placement for his own brand of hair die (not to mention the possible jab at the TLA movie by casting a light-skinned earthbender as a water tribesman), and manipulated the Avatar into trying to convince the head of the United Forces to go behind the President's back and drag the Republic into the war which, naturally, only serves to increase his profits since of course he'd be helping Asami sell them weapons as well. And then he convinces everyone, including a large share of the audience, that these are all good, helpful ideas because he's just so darn likeable.

The Agni Kais committed the terrorist attack, but a firebending street gang has no stock in a Water Tribe civil war, which means they were paid off. And if someone paid them off, it's quite a coincidence that the richest guy in the Water Tribe happened to come into town that day with a hastily thrown-together alibi. Maybe he does believe in the cause, but his priorities clearly lie in the best interests of his bank account first and foremost, and that's worrisome.