Kingdom Hearts Mafia: The Game

[Loki, The Fallen]

Thats three that say that name is bad. I'd like another night to verify if that is really his name, and that I don't have like a 50% success rate, but since that doesn't seem likely:

Vote: Roy_D_Mylote

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Why in HELL would I say that the role you claim me to be was a mafia role, if it weren't?

How am I supposed to know? Might be your tactic, try and delegitimize my role or something. I can't get inside your head, I can only get your name.

[Sheb]

Tendronai made a good point. Roy's already been investigated and came up without darkness in his heart. I'm starting to think Loki's the one lying about his role. If not, we can always string up Roy tomorrow to try and make sense of all this. Unvote: Roy
Vote: Loki

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Loki, The Fallen

Thats three that say that name is bad. I'd like another night to verify if that is really his name, and that I don't have like a 50% success rate, but since that doesn't seem likely:

One of them was me! If I investigated you, and your role name was Xenmas, and you told me that that would probably be the mafia don? I'd just go ahead and assume that the role was probably the mafia don, what with that being the way the game is. And all.

Vote: Roy_D_Mylote

Took you long enough.

Aaaaaaand another thing! If you're a roleblocker, then you would have...blocked my role, yes? But there were still three kills. So I can't be a killing role. Shazam.

How am I supposed to know? Might be your tactic, try and delegitimize my role or something. I can't get inside your head, I can only get your name.

That wouldn't delegitimize your role. It would maybe make you the town hero, finding out the mafia don.

[Loki, The Fallen]

Wha-? No.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

That wouldn't delegitimize your role. It would maybe make you the town hero, finding out the mafia don.

You wouldn't bother trying to lie about, because appearently everyone and thier brother knows that the guy is bad news. So instead you would try to make me look wrong, make me look like a liar.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

If you're a roleblocker, then you would have...blocked my role, yes? But there were still three kills. So I can't be a killing role. Shazam.

I never said you were Don. Maybe Wizardcat is changing it up a bit.

Yes, there were three kills. Perhaps they sent someone else to execute them? You can see the murder method/weapons are different on different nights. Perhaps you sent a lacky and they killed the target, while I ineffectually (Like usual) blocked the wrong one.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Loki, The Fallen

You wouldn't bother trying to lie about, because appearently everyone and thier brother knows that the guy is bad news. So instead you would try to make me look wrong, make me look like a liar.

Telling you what role the name fits does not in any way make you look wrong or like a liar. It elaborates on your investigation, it in fact makes ME look bad.

I never said you were Don. Maybe Wizardcat is changing it up a bit.

Unlikely, but then you type this:

Yes, there were three kills. Perhaps they sent someone else to execute them? You can see the murder method/weapons are different on different nights. Perhaps you sent a lacky and they killed the target, while I ineffectually (Like usual) blocked the wrong one.

Either I AM the Don, or I'm NOT. You can't believe them both. I can't have "sent a lackey" and also Wizardcat "changed it up" and made the leader not the leader.

And you have YET TO EXPLAIN away the fact that Red Fighter never shows up in the death posts, even as being bodyguarded, which would have happened if I were any killing role, as Xenmas would be.

[Loki, The Fallen]

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

And you have YET TO EXPLAIN away the fact that Red Fighter never shows up in the death posts, even as being bodyguarded, which would have happened if I were any killing role, as Xenmas would be.

Huh, explain what? How he died?

Here. Lets say you are Don. Also assume I blocked you last night. Lets see how people died. (Refer to post one of the thread.)

Originally Posted by GM

10: Ole' Dude With The Face, Namine, Seer, Town-aligned, Crushed by a meteor, Night 5.
19: grthwllms, Axel, Miller Roleblocker, Town-aligned, Brains chopped open, Night 5.
30: FenrisWolf, Wantz, Vanilla Townie, Town-aligned, Ended, Night 5.

Cool. One was Ended, the other lost thier brains, the third got hit by a meteor.

Now, for Red Fighter's death-day.

Originally Posted by GM

11: Nikose Tyris, Roxas, Tracker, Town-aligned, Crushed by a meteor, Night 4.
26: Red Fighter 1073, Pete, Insane Heartless Minion, Cult-aligned, Brains chopped open and ended, Night 4.

Only two kills. Looks like your lackey could have joined forces with the serial killer, and just killed the crap out of him. I don't know, just throwing out an idea.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Either I AM the Don, or I'm NOT. You can't believe them both. I can't have "sent a lackey" and also Wizardcat "changed it up" and made the leader not the leader.

I havn't figured it out just yet. I am trying to keep an open mind, look at it objectively and all. You could be the Heartless Leader or something. But if you want, I could just assume you are the Don, and make all my arguments based on that.

[Captain Combustible]

Loki, your argument fails because Roy was confirmed by ODWTF too be town aligned which means he can't be a mafiate or the cult leader, you claiming that he came up as xemnas who is obviously an organazation mafiate means that we can either believe you or believe that ODWTF who is a revealed alignment cop said roy was town. My vote stands.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Loki, The Fallen

Huh, explain what? How he died?

No no no no no no no no. Explain why he didn't appear in the death post. This has nothing to do with the time he actually died. I was referring to this post?

Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

I made a typo.

Also a final point to make before I must go (Tornado spotted in the area), if I was mafia, then if I live or die today is inconsequential the mafia is nowhere near close to winning.

'm going to even retract my previous request for the doctor to guard me, and instead tell him to guard Nikose since his skill has proved useful.

Look at it like this, if I'm mafia, the real vig targets me kills me, while the town gets to vote on who seems the scummiest.

If I'm the vig, the mafia targets me kills me, while the town gets to vote on who seems the scummiest.

If I'm neither vig nor mafia but have some other night role, then the mafia and the vig target me, and not only does the town still get to kill who seems the scummiest, but the mafia wasted a night kill.

Edit: Fug it, if I'm going to die my role will not go to waste.

Real Roleclaim: A moogle its the opposite of Nikose's role, I get to choose one person and see who targets them.

Night one: Target Red Fighter: he was targeted by Roy_D_Mylote and Demonlink2
Night two: Target Mesden: she was targeted by secretskull and Barrel-Hating Sycophant

Vote: h4x.m4g3
My work here has gone as far as it can.

See here, Loki? Where he says that on this night, Demonlink and I targeted him? And how Demonlink was a bodyguard? Okay. Now take a look at the night post that h4x was referring to:

Originally Posted by Wizardcat

IHateMakingNames woke up to the scent of something burning. Namely, her room and herself were aflame and the source of the fire was not hard to tell even through the smoke. Someone had smashed through her window and was shooting bursts of flames towards her in attempt to kill her. IHateMakingNames started to scream for help before being hit with a large fireball and becoming a pile of ash. The figure paused briefly over IHateMakingNames, Fuu, Vanilla Townie, Town-aligned's body before leaving.

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IHateMakingName's house wasn't the only source of flames. There was a circle of fire surrounding Mesden's house, keeping him from leaving. However, this was to the advantage of an attacker who had been waiting near the house for him to come out. He climbed a nearby house and jumped over the flames into Mesden's yard. A quick search yeilded results as the attacker found Mesden attempting to get through the flames. "You!" the attacker yelled over the sounds of the flames when he saw Mesden's face. "I've found you! Time to die!" Both drew weapons, leaped into the air and started to fight to the death. The sound of their fighting could be heard throughout the town as both were mighty but eventually, the attacker overcame Mesden and made a final slash. The body of Mesden, Sephrioth, Serial Killer, Self-Aligned, was left laying in the open.

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Elsewhere, B_real_shadows was walking back home, looking worriedly up at the smoke in the sky and wincing from the sounds of weapons clanging together. He was so intent on getting home, he didn't even notice the attack before it happened. A hooded figure blocked his path and B_real_shadows almost walked into him. Realizing what was about to happen, he attacked the black robed man but the man grabbed him before he could. "Your time is out," he said. The skeleton of B_real_shadows, Hayner, Police Officer, Town-aligned was found later.

Day 3 has begun. With 23 alive, it's 12 to lynch!

Do you see Red Fighter mentioned? No. But! Take a look at this post, where Barrel-Hating Sycophant was targeted and bodyguarded, possibly by Demonlink:

Originally Posted by Wizardcat

Again, flames sprung up during the night, this time, around Barrel-Hating Sycophant's house. Also like that of last time, a person sought to break through to the person inside of the wall of fire. However, the attacker didn't even need to go through it to accomplish its goal. Holding up a hand to the sky, a bright light shone and lit up the surroundings. The figure began it's attack but did not expect any interferance which is exactly what happened. A figure leapt off of a roof, weapon held tightly as it shot a ball of light at the figure creating the eerie light. It struck with precise accuracy, knocking the figure down, creating a perfect oppurtunity for Barrel-Hating Sycophant's defender to attack and drive off the attacker.

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Returning from the place where he had preformed his activities, secretskull was confident no one would dare attack him. After all, no one knew it was him causing a good deal of the chaos during the nights and as such would be safe. In addition, he was powerful enough to fight back. When a figure stood in his path, secretskull started to do just that but the figure created a shield against his flaming attacks. "It's only a matter of time." said the mysterious stranger. Somehow, the attacker was able to disapear and reappear behind secretskull and attack back. "And yours is finished!" The fire of secretskull faded and so did he. "Secretskull, Hades, Heartless Minion, Heartless-aligned is no more," came the voice of the GM. "It is now Day 4. With 21 alive, it is 11 to lynch."

Edit: Spelling Mistakes.

See where BHS is mentioned as being targeted by a killer, AND ALSO BEING BODYGUARDED? Yes. Ergo, it would have happened with Red Fighter as well. Since it didn't, logic and thought would dictate that I am not a killer.

I havn't figured it out just yet. I am trying to keep an open mind, look at it objectively and all. You could be the Heartless Leader or something. But if you want, I could just assume you are the Don, and make all my arguments based on that.

I can't be the Heartless leader, because there is no way that Wizardcat would take a major character's name, and give it to a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARACTER. So he'd have to be the Organization leader. Therefore, since we believe the Organization to be mafia, we must assume that I am not Xenmas the don, because I am not a killer, as I proved using logic.

[Loki, The Fallen]

Interesting. But this is hinging on if H4x.m4g3 is who he says he is. We have stated before that, while everyone else is named, he is the only nameless charicter. He's just a blank moogle according to his roleclaim. Every other charicter that has come up has had a name.

I can't explain what he saw. He could be the "Ended" guy. He could just be another mafiate, covering for you. I can't say, I haven't tried to block him.

And finally, Namine claimed that the Seer could see darkness in someones heart. Perhaps that was a clue, that they could see the heartless?

Just throwing out wild ideas. What else do we have?

Vote stands.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Loki, The Fallen

Interesting. But this is hinging on if H4x.m4g3 is who he says he is. We have stated before that, while everyone else is named, he is the only nameless charicter. He's just a blank moogle according to his roleclaim. Every other charicter that has come up has had a name.

He's had 100% results. Even if he's lying about his character name, it doesn't matter, as he's giving out accurate information. This point does not stand up to real logic.

I can't explain what he saw. He could be the "Ended" guy. He could just be another mafiate, covering for you. I can't say, I haven't tried to block him.

So, he foresaw this specific instance, and decided to lie and say that I targeted someone that the bodyguard also targeted--because somehow he KNEW WHO THE BODYGUARD WAS, too--so that I wouldn't get set up. No.

And you have YET TO EXPLAIN HOW, if I'm the killer, Red Fighter AVOIDS APPEARING IN THE DEATH POST RELATED TO THE NIGHT I TARGETED HIM. It doesn't make sense.

And finally, Namine claimed that the Seer could see darkness in someones heart. Perhaps that was a clue, that they could see the heartless?

I don't know if the name didn't tip you off. The heartless? Yeah, they don't have hearts for there to be darkness in. So there goes another point.

Just throwing out wild ideas. What else do we have?

Logic. Thought. Rationality. Intelligence?

Vote stands.

Of course it does.