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Unread 06-27-2010, 08:01 PM   #651
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Lithp, if he's got this awesome plan, answer me this.

Why didn't he just have like, a meeting of all the powerful dudes in Soul Society, then shikai, then AFTER that kill them all immediately? Example being, he illusions a copy of himself doing his normal stuff, then he kills a captain, while illusioning them alive and suchlike, repeat til all are dead, do it for their gophers, then BAM. He's won, he can go do what he wants because he has all the power. He can do whatever and not risk anything because no one can hurt him?


Edit: Or just shikai, then later on kill them each individually in the night for that matter.
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Unread 06-27-2010, 11:25 PM   #652
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There's 13 of them. 26, because he obviously did it to the lieutenants. Not counting himself, Tousen, & Gin, that's still 23.

Murdering 23 high-level combatants in complete secrecy doesn't seem the LEAST bit difficult to you? If something even minor goes wrong in ANY of those instances, the entire plan could be blown.
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Unread 06-27-2010, 11:47 PM   #653
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I dont think his illusions are as complete as he claims. I mentioned before that he never makes you think he is somewhere he isn't, but makes you think someone else is him. Plus you can get through the illusion. Aizen is the type to play it safe, he wouldn't risk someone figuring it out. Whole reason he faked his death was so he didn't have to worry about people starting to wonder where the hell he was, and to give them a reason to be abit on the violent side with Ichigo and crew.
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Unread 06-28-2010, 05:52 AM   #654
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There's 13 of them. 26, because he obviously did it to the lieutenants. Not counting himself, Tousen, & Gin, that's still 23.

Murdering 23 high-level combatants in complete secrecy doesn't seem the LEAST bit difficult to you? If something even minor goes wrong in ANY of those instances, the entire plan could be blown.
Killing anyone is easy for Aizen. If you don't even know that he's there, you don't know where, how, or even if there's an attack and thus cannot defend against it. He can walk up to someone without them realizing and decapitate them. Bam, dead captain.
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The answer is because Aizen wanted them to know he beat them. This isn't about just killing everyone in the most effective way possible. Aizen is smugness taken to its logical extreme. He has planned ahead for everything and wants you to know that his obstacles to godhood are merely a formality. He doesn't care if you're stronger than he is (Yamamoto, Ichigo's dad), smarter than he is (Urahara), or anything else -- he is better than you for no other reason than he says so and he will prove it to your face. The entire arrancar fight was literally just him fucking around with the byproducts of his godhood before he beat everyone by himself. This is all an amusing ruse to him.

I mean he made frost midget stab Hinamori, which is probably the most hilarious thing in any manga ever. He is the greatest troll in literary history and his big fight and ultimate form having a mullet are all just side effects of this. He probably could just illusion everyone into a quick death, but that doesn't suit the character.

He's probably my favorite villain ever just because of how audacious and ridiculous he is.
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Unread 06-28-2010, 07:23 AM   #656
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More or less I'd have to agree with Mesden. Aizen's goal isn't, kill everyone, frankly he doesn't really care who lives or dies. Does seem to make it a point to torment Toshiro though. Assuming he can just stealth kill everyone it doesn't really prove anything, or really even help him in his eyes.

Plus that would make a crappy story. Aizen has only used it when its been interesting, as opposed to all the time. Maybe not the most logical move but alot of us would probably stop reading if it happened. In fact now that I think about it, the only time you seem to see him use it is to make you think someone, or something is him. Its possible thats all it does and he's just lying about the total control thing.

Unlike most villians, Aizen lies, alot.
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Unread 06-28-2010, 12:59 PM   #657
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Making Captain Shota stab Hinamori was pretty great, and I actually wish he did stuff like that more often. Too often he just talks all the time, or when he actually fights the fights themselves are rather boring.
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Unread 06-28-2010, 01:09 PM   #658
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He's probably my favorite villain ever just because of how audacious and ridiculous he is.
Not only i think you are 100% right, but i would add 2 things:

1- Aizen didn't even care that Tousen died, and he was his most loyal follower (Tousen saw Aizen as a Bringer of Justice and Balance).

2- Aizen's sidekick is Gin. Who not only is the second biggest Troll in Manga history, he is also a general creepy dick and the one guy Aizen should -not- trust.

So, yeah... Aizen is a Awesome Villain because of the whole Package.
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Unread 06-28-2010, 04:08 PM   #659
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Killing anyone is easy for Aizen. If you don't even know that he's there, you don't know where, how, or even if there's an attack and thus cannot defend against it. He can walk up to someone without them realizing and decapitate them. Bam, dead captain.
Yamamoto alone disproved this. The fact of the matter is that the suggested plan is simply too complicated. What if someone wakes up? Notices his Reitsu? What if he can't mimic the Captains well enough & the survivors start to get suspicious? There's any number of ways for that plan to go wrong, even barring potential limits to the Zanpakuto that have been speculated on.

There's also the fact that his main objective (that we know of) was to get the Hougyokou & research the King's Key, & more recently, the fact that he was apparently testing Ichigo.

Also, Mesden has a point. Aizen seems to want his enemies to WATCH his rise to power.

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Making Captain Shota stab Hinamori was pretty great, and I actually wish he did stuff like that more often. Too often he just talks all the time, or when he actually fights the fights themselves are rather boring.
More-or-less agreed. I was hoping that what was going on was that they were attacking Ichigo, though.
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I'm going to bet that Aizen blew it up specifically so Ichigo could use the place as a hyperbolic time chamber.
From this point on I'm forced to believe that all of NonCon's predictions about Bleach will eventually come true.
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