Filler? I don't even know 'er! aka the fuck-Bleach [SPOILERS] megathread!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

He could show up since it'd make sense for him to want to check out the strange city that just magically appeared in the Soul Society.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Kyanbu The Legend

He could show up since it'd make sense for him to want to check out the strange city that just magically appeared in the Soul Society.

I was actually just telling Fenris that. I'm not sure he will, because I really don't know what relevance or effect he could have in the current events, but he theoretically could.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

If anything he'd be a casualty at the least should he show up in the near future.

[Ecks]

So, apparently zanpakutou have separate spirit entities for their bankai? Pretty sure the guy in the hood's not the hollow. The sclera in his eyes weren't black.

Also, Ichigo and Isshin's swords both have "moon" in the name. I wonder what the disinction between en (Scathing) and zan (Cutting) is going to mean for Isshin, shikai-wise.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by EckScizor

So, apparently zanpakutou have separate spirit entities for their bankai? Pretty sure the guy in the hood's not the hollow. The sclera in his eyes weren't black.

Also, Ichigo and Isshin's swords both have "moon" in the name. I wonder what the disinction between en (Scathing) and zan (Cutting) is going to mean for Isshin, shikai-wise.

My guess. Engetsu's Shikai state would look something like this. A weapon of that type.

[Kim]

Ugh. The more I think about the Fake Karakura Arc the more I hate it. There were so many damn characters that could have gone bankai but didn't because Kubo wills it. Like, even before Aizen went butterfly-with-a-mullet, there were more than a few characters who could have used their bankais on him, but they didn't because Kubo wanted them to have something to show off later in the series. UUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH

[Lithp]

I always did love Kubo's weird-ass sense of symbolism for the Inner World. And fuck yeah, Hollow Ichigo! And he's got the weird horned mask! I LIKE where this is going.

But that goddamned boot had BETTER not be Don Konoji's.

What the Hell's going on in the top panel of Page 7?

NonCon: So, wait a second, am I getting this right: Your main problem with the Fake Karakura Town Arc is that Tite Kubo is saving some shit for later?

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Lithp

NonCon: So, wait a second, am I getting this right: Your main problem with the Fake Karakura Town Arc is that Tite Kubo is saving some shit for later?

That he's saving shit for later that it makes absolutely no sense for the characters to be saving for later. This is just Kubo dragging stuff out, with no payoff for him having done so. Bankais have always been one of the best things about Bleach, making up for some of the worst moments. So far as I can remember, we got two of them that arc. We got Captain Lesbian's rocket launcher, and Gin's sword. I actually tried to think of others, and couldn't.

Captain Lesbian's rocket launcher I'm not a huge fan of, but I can at appreciate it on a "so far different from what you expect" level. Gin's bankai is just incredibly boring and dumb.

Plus, let's say that Kubo had had them go all bankai. Are you seriously telling me he wouldn't have been able to pull some other move/ability/whatever out of his ass, and give some reason for why they didn't use it before?

On top of all that, it just makes NO SENSE from a character perspective. Shinji has had a fucking century to plan his vengeance. He was a captain so we know he has a bankai. Not only does he apparently have no plan for dealing with Aizen's hallucination ability, he doesn't even bother going bankai. This is supposed to be the characters going all out to stop Aizen because if they can't stop him here then they're screwed or something right? That's at least what the arc was sold as. But so many people didn't go bankai, and I really can't think of a single legitimate explanation for why.

[Lithp]

Ah, I gotcha now.

I actually tried to think of others, and couldn't.

I'm still maintaining that Yamamoto's Shikai & Bankai are indivisible, but other than that, I got nothin'.

Plus, let's say that Kubo had had them go all bankai. Are you seriously telling me he wouldn't have been able to pull some other move/ability/whatever out of his ass, and give some reason for why they didn't use it before?

Yes. You yourself said that "Bankais are the best thing in Bleach." If you think about it, Gin's Bankai isn't much different in its premise than Byakuya's. So why was it received so icily? Because Byakuya's was the INTRODUCTION to Bankai, while Gin's was the longest awaited one to date.

That changes everything. People have had time to build up anticipation for Gin's Bankai. If its ability is anything less than "makes you shit bricks," then some people are going to be disappointed. I myself am hoping that there's still more to it.

If Tite Kubo pulled new move out of his ass, the only way he could get anywhere NEAR that level of anticipation is Hado 99 or some new Hollow powers for Ichigo. And be honest with yourself, how often do you wonder what either of those will be, as opposed to the Bankais?

Shinji has had a fucking century to plan his vengeance.

Yeah, you'd really think Shinji would have learned.

But so many people didn't go bankai, and I really can't think of a single legitimate explanation for why.

Well, it's going to be hard to do that without knowing what they are. But one thing I like about Bleach is that it's not obligatory for a character to go into their SS4 state. They can be defeated before that happens, due to factors both within & beyond their control.

[Kim]

Nah, I think Byakuya's is pretty dumb, too. The only thing Byakuya's has over Gin's is that the shikai is out there enough that the bankai just being the shikai harder is just a tad more forgivable. I mean, compare "sword that turns into flowers only the flowers kill you" with "sword that gets longer" and it's pretty easy to see which is the cooler one. Byakuya's bankai still sucks, it just sucks less than Gin's. The only one, off the top of my head, that is as bad as those two is Captain Shota's bankai because that one's pretty lame, too.