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Unread 12-04-2009, 02:56 PM   #61
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Unread 12-04-2009, 03:03 PM   #62
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Maybe Fifth was just being a dick out of it for humor sake, but I vaguely remember someone getting in trouble cuz they were a dick about people not liking the translation, but I haven't the foggiest if it was you or someone else cuz no I am not searching for that thread.
I believe that was FFFanboy or something close to that. I got banned by wondering what was so bad about Fiendlord, getting infracted and then mentioning the infraction in another post.

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Zelda's plot does not center around where dodongoes come from, nor do any of its plot twists. Zelda's plot is about as tertiary to the experience as hats are to me getting laid. I'm pretty sure that Nomura and everyone else responsible for the series' plot think that it is an actually good plot. It is not.
Zelda's plot does not center around dodongoes because they're not important. If Ganondorf decides to make an army of crazy mutant dodongoes that turn their victims in new dodongoes, it'd certainly be a very important plot point.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 03:26 PM   #63
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Zelda's plot does not center around dodongoes because they're not important. If Ganondorf decides to make an army of crazy mutant dodongoes that turn their victims in new dodongoes, it'd certainly be a very important plot point.
That's my point. The game's make... well... almost nothing into a major plot point. If they sat down and made dodongoes into a big deal, and talked about where dodongoes come from all the time, and none of it made any goddamn sense, I'd probably bitch about that as well.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 06:34 PM   #64
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That's my point. The game's make... well... almost nothing into a major plot point. If they sat down and made dodongoes into a big deal, and talked about where dodongoes come from all the time, and none of it made any goddamn sense, I'd probably bitch about that as well.
Except in a Zelda game having that would be new so you have something to compare it with whereas KH has always been like this, so why do people bitch when it happens again when it's practically a staple of the series?

Wait a second.

...Oh goddamnit, is KH's plot like the Sonic Cycle? I mean specifically the plot, as the gameplay is good in all of them - I didn't like Chain of Memories' battle system, but, eh, some people did.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 06:40 PM   #65
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Except in a Zelda game having that would be new so you have something to compare it with whereas KH has always been like this, so why do people bitch when it happens again when it's practically a staple of the series?
"They've done it before and that makes it okay!"

Sorry, Ryong, but... no.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 06:54 PM   #66
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"They've done it before and that makes it okay!"

Sorry, Ryong, but... no.
There's a difference between a staple and bringing back a bad aspect of a game.


Then again, it's all bad to me, considering that Kingdom Hearts is my personal idea of what hell would look like if I went there
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Unread 12-04-2009, 06:58 PM   #67
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You have a pretty tame view of Hell, then. Realistically, it isn't the worst thing ever, and you could be subjected to much worse.

In all seriousness, no goofing and joking. It's not -that- bad.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 07:00 PM   #68
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The games have major plot holes, ANGST, and some annoying characters, but you get some awesome Disney stuff, and the combat is pretty good.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 07:00 PM   #69
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Also retarded costume designs. Like, beyond the normal Nomura BELTANZIPPER garbage that he's actually toned the fuck down immensely since blowing his wad on Dirge of Cerberus.

But, I mean... Yeesh.
Just to comment on that, all he did was cross Cloud's design with Vincent's (red mantle, claw glove?) and wrap the Buster Sword in toilet paper. It could be worse. XD
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Unread 12-04-2009, 07:12 PM   #70
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Yeah at this point I doubt anyone can really defend this game now. Giving that it was practically confirmed to be confusing the minute The Unverses were announced and briefly explained.

The writers for this game just digged there own graves.

But I still have some hope for this game. If it turns out bad in the gameplay. Then I officially give up on Kingdom Hearts ever being good (unless it's completely reseted).
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