Hatland Mafia - Page 7

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 10-25-2011, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

But it still has positive value to Town compared to the strategy of joke-voting our way through D1.

Jokes means plus morale.

Gregness · 10-25-2011, 01:29 AM

If we can't shake loose a lead, I say we vote off inactives if we have any. The only valid argument raised against that strategy last game was that it's better to focus on finding a target. I mean, I'd hope that's sort of obvious, but day 1 being what it is it seems like a decent enough place to start.

I'm officially much more comfortable in later days.

rpgdemon · 10-25-2011, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karesh

Jokes means plus morale.

Well, sure, we'll be losing, but we'll have high morale while we do it!

Joke voting/scheming is pretty bad, since it means that when things turn sour, someone can always fall back on, "Nah, it was a joke, chill! Look, you're pursuing me over a joke, that makes YOU scummy!", when someone has legitimate reason to doubt a player.

rpgdemon · 10-25-2011, 01:33 AM

Now time to really sleep. My roommate dragged me into watching a movie right when I was going to bed.

Ravashak · 10-25-2011, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Like, right now? Right now, in the context of this conversation we're having. Think about how much information we've already disclosed that other Townies can work with. It's now increasingly unlikely that you and I are scummates, or that Aludrin and I are scummates. In that sense, egging you and Aludrin into miniature confrontations now has value. When I flip, Town's going to learn far more than if I flipped without instigating said dialogues.

I disagree, if I were a mafiate, I wouldn't put it past myself to get myself and another mafiate to have a bunch of arguments, and stay on different sides of an argument just so that if one's exposed, the other'll be considered a "safe" person.

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Originally Posted by Gregness

I say we vote off inactives if we have any.

Isn't it a bit early to decide who's inactive? The thread was made at 4:19 in the night for me xP

Since I don't have too much time now, i'll
FoS: Sifright
due to pattern recognition. He was town doctor in Homestruck, he was a char named doctor (though powerless) in MLP, so obviously, logic dictates he's now mafiate medic.

Professor Smarmiarty · 10-25-2011, 02:34 AM

Snake has a pretty different posting style this game than D1 last game- the end result is the same but the tone and content of his posts are wildly different. .
His response to all accusations of "I'm far too good a mafia player to make fuckups like that"is interesting certainly, it could be just his own rampant mafia ego but I think he is more likely playing into the own caricature of himself that has been created which is a pretty aces strategy because it shuts down analysis of your own posts by just creating a "Snake is snake" type response.
As for the posting style change, not sure yet. Either way Snake is a good dude to keep alive because if he is scum he isn't going to hide so we'll figure it out eventually.

He's got a massive hateboner for me though. I don'tknow why. Can't we all just love each other.
Hugs: Snake

Geminex · 10-25-2011, 03:22 AM

Geez, guys, way to wait until I go to sleep before starting this game. Also, way to make over 60 posts in the first six hours. If nothing else, Snake generates activity.

Anyway, I'm in my lecture on contract law now. If I miss anything important, I'm suing you all.

"If nothing else" is the effective clause here. I get his logic, 'more activity means more information', but I dunno. As much as I'm in favor of clarity and transparency, if the wrong people (mafia, scum) make the right deductions, or if the right people make the wrong deductions (See: The Earl Incident), you can still end up screwing us over pretty thoroughly. And hell, an active player isn't necessarily a townie. Scum want to avoid attention, but if they know we know that, they can show activity to throw us off. So I'm not sure which side to take.

And I agree with smarty, maybe this is just leftover tension from last game's ending, but Snake's tone is definitely different. That necessarily suspicious, but definitely noteworthy.

Geminex · 10-25-2011, 03:41 AM

Whoops, by wrong people I meant "Mafia, Cult".

Sifright · 10-25-2011, 03:57 AM

So bus broke down on the way to work and i'm rereading through the tread but i'm not keen on rpgdemon so far, Also as a townie making plans that only work well for yourself if you are town is totally what you want to do.

So

Fos:Rpgdemon

Will post more when I have finished reading through the thread.

**Revising Ocelot** · 10-25-2011, 05:18 AM

I'm going on direct evidence here.

This is a land of Hats.

Quote:

15. Smarty McHathater

Smarty is a hat hater.
This means that Smarty is racist and/or genocidal towards the Hatland.
Smarty is essentially anti-town.

##Vote: Smarty

10-25-2011, 01:29 AM	#62
Gregness Never give up. Never give in. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,034	If we can't shake loose a lead, I say we vote off inactives if we have any. The only valid argument raised against that strategy last game was that it's better to focus on finding a target. I mean, I'd hope that's sort of obvious, but day 1 being what it is it seems like a decent enough place to start. I'm officially much more comfortable in later days. __________________ A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - Robert Heinlein

10-25-2011, 01:33 AM	#64
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Now time to really sleep. My roommate dragged me into watching a movie right when I was going to bed. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

10-25-2011, 02:34 AM	#66
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Snake has a pretty different posting style this game than D1 last game- the end result is the same but the tone and content of his posts are wildly different. . His response to all accusations of "I'm far too good a mafia player to make fuckups like that"is interesting certainly, it could be just his own rampant mafia ego but I think he is more likely playing into the own caricature of himself that has been created which is a pretty aces strategy because it shuts down analysis of your own posts by just creating a "Snake is snake" type response. As for the posting style change, not sure yet. Either way Snake is a good dude to keep alive because if he is scum he isn't going to hide so we'll figure it out eventually. He's got a massive hateboner for me though. I don'tknow why. Can't we all just love each other. Hugs: Snake

10-25-2011, 03:22 AM	#67
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Geez, guys, way to wait until I go to sleep before starting this game. Also, way to make over 60 posts in the first six hours. If nothing else, Snake generates activity. Anyway, I'm in my lecture on contract law now. If I miss anything important, I'm suing you all. "If nothing else" is the effective clause here. I get his logic, 'more activity means more information', but I dunno. As much as I'm in favor of clarity and transparency, if the wrong people (mafia, scum) make the right deductions, or if the right people make the wrong deductions (See: The Earl Incident), you can still end up screwing us over pretty thoroughly. And hell, an active player isn't necessarily a townie. Scum want to avoid attention, but if they know we know that, they can show activity to throw us off. So I'm not sure which side to take. And I agree with smarty, maybe this is just leftover tension from last game's ending, but Snake's tone is definitely different. That necessarily suspicious, but definitely noteworthy.

10-25-2011, 03:41 AM	#68
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Whoops, by wrong people I meant "Mafia, Cult".

10-25-2011, 03:57 AM	#69
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	So bus broke down on the way to work and i'm rereading through the tread but i'm not keen on rpgdemon so far, Also as a townie making plans that only work well for yourself if you are town is totally what you want to do. So Fos:Rpgdemon Will post more when I have finished reading through the thread.