#655: "You are so cool!" - Page 7

Jared Todd · 01-31-2006, 03:51 AM

I'm just still not sure whether the class changes are going to matter. BM's going to either not be able to learn anything except weak magic, or he's never going to be able to "break the sigils" or whatever Sarda wants them to collect, or BM will never get hit by magic as he's always in the back/will die if he isn't; Fighter will never need to defend anyone as BM is always in the back/his luck sucks, Thief is too fast, and RM can block the attack with his own or use Fighter's defensive skills; Thief already can steal at the maximum profficiency and already knows ninja skills; and RM will never want to use much MP because that would take away from what he could do, but never will (a.k.a. MP.).

and what the hell is wrong with the DW's...?

[ Edit: I just looked back to page 6 ( want to know something? I actually read the whole thread before I posted my original post. Yay! ) ... Fighter's "cover" ability will automatically block BM from any attack since he's so weak, which will be irrelevant anyway since he'll never be harmed by magic and he'll never learn magic either, and if anyone else gets weak while Fighter is occupied/is weak, himself, RM will block them too, but since RM isn't invincible.... ]

KillBill · 01-31-2006, 04:01 AM

Hmm, I guess that's true. BM gets hit by something, performs it, RM can copy him at the time (along with any other ally)... so when all is said and done, BM's one clear advantage is being immune to being attacked by magic (something even Fighter probably can't do with Cover, and RM probably can't copy from BM), whereas RM's clear advantage is being able to not only copy BM but even the physical attacks of Knight-fighter and Ninja-thief. So I guess they're both pretty balanced. The only remaining factor would be, what actions from RM/BM (getting hit by a spell and using it back? mime?) cost MP; only if one of them had an MP advantage like that would there be a clearly more powerful one.

Particleman · 01-31-2006, 04:24 AM

For some reason I got this mental image of BM standing at the center of a FF6 Ultima-esque sphere of pure destructive energy, laughing like a maniac with his arms held high and his face turned to the sky as the latent power within him is realized, the sheer potential of it finally snapping his already warped mind.

That would be a kickass painting.

Monkeybonk · 01-31-2006, 05:14 AM

I'm really liking this class change, and I think Brian did it to breathe some life back into the strip. Up until now, the LWs had been more or less one-trick-ponies, and there's only so many times you can make thief steal things or BM hadoken an orphanage before it gets old. I think BM was the worst in this regard (of being 'stuck in a rut'), and I think Brian realized it too, which is why BM could be getting the most powerful change. Shake things up a bit.

As evidence, look at thief. Look at how many times the 'Tiny print exemptions' gag was used... and how many times the 'It's in your contract' stunt was pulled. Now look at how long it's been since we've seen either of those. Why? Because they just weren't that amusing anymore.

DSPaul · 01-31-2006, 05:33 AM

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks Magus should be voiced by the guy from Legacy of Kain....

BetaRuler · 01-31-2006, 06:07 AM

I wonder how long Black Mage would have taken anyhow to get those powers without the help of Magus :p if he didnt stand a chance then I would almost think that means BM doesnt really count as one of the LW and WM DOES or something silly like that, this idea is just brainstorming a little :p

I really didnt see that class change idea of Garlands coming, that was pretty funny, although I reckon they will have a proper class change somewhere along the way, still, good for laughs!

T3H BLUE MAGE · 01-31-2006, 06:07 AM

I KNEW IT! I am SUCH a genius. It's not FOR SURE that BM is going to become a Blue Mage, but it would be so DAMN COOL. Why am I making certain PARTS of my sentences ALL-CAPS? I have NO IDEA.

blackmind · 01-31-2006, 06:08 AM

i dont think that he'll get blue magic but THATWOULDBESOCOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!

JONJONAUG · 01-31-2006, 06:31 AM

Blue Magic is overrated.

And there's a mention of that Nexus again, after 574 comics.

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010925

JKLantern · 01-31-2006, 06:43 AM

The way Magus was stretching his glove in one of the panels makes me think that the way BM is going to get his Blue Magic is going to be excruciatingly painful...

Dear God. I should never, ever post before 7 am ever again.

01-31-2006, 03:51 AM	#61
Jared Todd Boo Buddy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ca.. nad...nada? Posts: 685	I'm just still not sure whether the class changes are going to matter. BM's going to either not be able to learn anything except weak magic, or he's never going to be able to "break the sigils" or whatever Sarda wants them to collect, or BM will never get hit by magic as he's always in the back/will die if he isn't; Fighter will never need to defend anyone as BM is always in the back/his luck sucks, Thief is too fast, and RM can block the attack with his own or use Fighter's defensive skills; Thief already can steal at the maximum profficiency and already knows ninja skills; and RM will never want to use much MP because that would take away from what he could do, but never will (a.k.a. MP.). and what the hell is wrong with the DW's...? [ Edit: I just looked back to page 6 ( want to know something? I actually read the whole thread before I posted my original post. Yay! ) ... Fighter's "cover" ability will automatically block BM from any attack since he's so weak, which will be irrelevant anyway since he'll never be harmed by magic and he'll never learn magic either, and if anyone else gets weak while Fighter is occupied/is weak, himself, RM will block them too, but since RM isn't invincible.... ] __________________ http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...h_todd/sig.png Last edited by Jared Todd; 01-31-2006 at 03:57 AM.

01-31-2006, 05:14 AM	#64
Monkeybonk Shyguy Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 106	I'm really liking this class change, and I think Brian did it to breathe some life back into the strip. Up until now, the LWs had been more or less one-trick-ponies, and there's only so many times you can make thief steal things or BM hadoken an orphanage before it gets old. I think BM was the worst in this regard (of being 'stuck in a rut'), and I think Brian realized it too, which is why BM could be getting the most powerful change. Shake things up a bit. As evidence, look at thief. Look at how many times the 'Tiny print exemptions' gag was used... and how many times the 'It's in your contract' stunt was pulled. Now look at how long it's been since we've seen either of those. Why? Because they just weren't that amusing anymore. Last edited by Monkeybonk; 01-31-2006 at 05:32 AM.

01-31-2006, 06:07 AM	#66
BetaRuler Cloud walker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton UK Posts: 366	I wonder how long Black Mage would have taken anyhow to get those powers without the help of Magus :p if he didnt stand a chance then I would almost think that means BM doesnt really count as one of the LW and WM DOES or something silly like that, this idea is just brainstorming a little :p I really didnt see that class change idea of Garlands coming, that was pretty funny, although I reckon they will have a proper class change somewhere along the way, still, good for laughs! __________________ www.freewebs.com/betarandomtales Home of my sprite tales and RPG tales, try sometime?

01-31-2006, 06:08 AM	#68
blackmind <----- My cat after eating a lemon. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The nexis at the center of the universe Posts: 84	i dont think that he'll get blue magic but THATWOULDBESOCOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Never take a sleeping pill and a laxative in the same night XD

01-31-2006, 06:43 AM	#70
JKLantern Prince of Stories Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Negative Zone Posts: 47	The way Magus was stretching his glove in one of the panels makes me think that the way BM is going to get his Blue Magic is going to be excruciatingly painful... Dear God. I should never, ever post before 7 am ever again. __________________ ...Of course, there are some powers that God wants nothing to do with.

01-31-2006, 04:01 AM	#62
KillBill Troopa Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 71	Hmm, I guess that's true. BM gets hit by something, performs it, RM can copy him at the time (along with any other ally)... so when all is said and done, BM's one clear advantage is being immune to being attacked by magic (something even Fighter probably can't do with Cover, and RM probably can't copy from BM), whereas RM's clear advantage is being able to not only copy BM but even the physical attacks of Knight-fighter and Ninja-thief. So I guess they're both pretty balanced. The only remaining factor would be, what actions from RM/BM (getting hit by a spell and using it back? mime?) cost MP; only if one of them had an MP advantage like that would there be a clearly more powerful one.

01-31-2006, 05:33 AM	#65
DSPaul Goomba Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8	I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks Magus should be voiced by the guy from Legacy of Kain....

01-31-2006, 06:07 AM	#67
T3H BLUE MAGE Goomba Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 7	I KNEW IT! I am SUCH a genius. It's not FOR SURE that BM is going to become a Blue Mage, but it would be so DAMN COOL. Why am I making certain PARTS of my sentences ALL-CAPS? I have NO IDEA.

01-31-2006, 06:31 AM	#69
JONJONAUG Ranma 1/2 Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 115	Blue Magic is overrated. And there's a mention of that Nexus again, after 574 comics. http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010925