Final Fantasy - d6cussion - Page 7

phil_ · 12-07-2009, 03:09 PM

Hey, Truce mentioned slow actions and I have questions about them.

When a Slow action actually "fires," does that take up the character's Standard action for that round? Or does the firing just happen and they're free to take a Standard action, like whacking something with a stick or starting up another Slow action? Seems like it should be the second one, since the other way would make casting two spells take five turns, but then again having a spell go off and then making an attack doesn't seem right, either. Actually, never mind, page 117 says it's the second one. Woo for doing spell damage and attack damage on the same round. That should be fun for the healers.

Naqel · 12-07-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Truce

You can create weapons systems and attach them to your Weapon attachment - Gun. They'll take your weapon slot, however, and act as any other normal weapon would. If the Weapon Attachment gets hit, it'll simply jam - so if your weapon's out, you'll still be able to use it, but you won't be able to retract your weapon.

Since it's possible to place Weapon Grafts on other locations(being added to an arm or replacing it is only the most common option), would it be fine to say, have a Pulse Cannon(s) attached as backup weaponry hidden(as in, not occupy a hand, but maybe an inventory slot instead) under a chest-plate or shoulder pads, at the cost of increasing the cost/difficulty and/or making usage of such weapon system a Long action.

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Originally Posted by Truce

B) I'd prefer to keep the two separate, so I'll say no.

I'd like to know, why?

I mean, it'd be perfectly logical and absolutely possible to, say: Obtain a basic Airship from the guild(level ups, and this means abilities that come with every 4 of them are obtained when we go debrief), and then have it upgraded myself in spare time or in the field.

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Originally Posted by Truce

You can add a redundant system, which won't do anything usually but will replace the other one in case it gets destroyed. I'll also allow you to make a Repair graft that's the equivalent of 2 points - though, repairing a part will be a considered a slow action in battle.

Even if your graft gets destroyed, though, you'll be able to wield your weapon.

Regarding that matter: Would it be okay to for example make a graft that shuts down other grafts of equivalent value to instantly restore another one?

Say, kill the bionic eye to regain the strength bonus, all during an instant action.

Truce · 12-07-2009, 05:58 PM

1. Sure - you'll be able to use it as a slow action.

2. Because the Vehicle shared ability gets some options that simply creating things through synthesis would not give you. So, I'm not going to allow any mixing and matching.

I would allow you guys to share a vehicle on your character sheets though.

3. No. Even if you could cannibalize some of your grafts to fix others, it wouldn't be an instant action.

POS Industries · 12-07-2009, 06:15 PM

Is it too late to get in on this? I have an idea for something I'm trying to hammer out, but I'm only just now getting some time to look over the rulebook, so it might take a while. You know, like a few hours tops, anyway.

Worst case scenario I can get Krylo to summarize the important bits.

Truce · 12-07-2009, 07:13 PM

For now, I'll decide that after Arhra nobody else can join. Ten people is just the limit for two groups, and I don't want to deal with three.

POS, I talked to you on AIM about what I have in mind for you. Muwhaha.

Menarker · 12-07-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Truce

Menarker:

You can add a redundant system, which won't do anything usually but will replace the other one in case it gets destroyed. I'll also allow you to make a Repair graft that's the equivalent of 2 points - though, repairing a part will be a considered a slow action in battle.

Even if your graft gets destroyed, though, you'll be able to wield your weapon.

I feel validated by this. ^^ A question about it though. Would I be able to sell my old "auto-repair" graft in that case when I have the rest of the cash to pay for it? Or would the repair graft be specific to that arm part and not repair the other grafts that get damaged?, Could I "upgrade" the auto-repair into that aforementioned repair graft for the extra cost it would take to make it 2? Could that upgrade thing also apply to the Bionic eye or arm in the future (both of which have stronger bonus and more expensive price to it.)

Just checking, but otherwise very happy.

Also, Do I have to roleplay my dragon companion as if it had the same stats as my dragoon or can I treat it as if it had a more vibrant personality and activeness? Was hoping that the dragon companion have a bit more life and spirit than its master currently has with 1 dex and 1 cha.

EDIT: If you accept POS and Arhra, we'll have 11 people. There was 8 at first, 4 per group. You said Teal would join group 1. One more person can fit in group 2 to make it 10 and the other would be left out if you choose to only have 10 total. (Unless you wanna opt to bump the number to 12 for 6 people a team or something.)

POS Industries · 12-07-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Menarker

If you accept POS and Arhra, we'll have 11 people. There was 8 at first, 4 per group. You said Teal would join group 1. One more person can fit in group 2 to make it 10 and the other would be left out if you choose to only have 10 total. (Unless you wanna opt to bump the number to 12 for 6 people a team or something.)

Each party will have 5 people. I will not be a starting party member.

My character has more important business that demands his attention at the start of the RP.

krogothwolf · 12-07-2009, 08:34 PM

We have a wandering PC who could be a villian/ally or competitor! Awesome. Unless he joins the pick on the paladin crowd, then it sucks!

Teal drew attention to the fact I put 2.7m as a height when it should have been 1.7m. I adjusted it to 1.7m, unless you don't want me to do that and leave me as a tall huge person.

POS Industries · 12-07-2009, 10:30 PM

Aww here it goes!

Name: Prasad Kupowitz
Age: 14
Race: Moogle
Class: Gambler
Appearance: Roughly a meter tall and weighing 25kg, dark gray fur, with royal purple pom-pom and matching wings. Bears the longer ears and more catlike features more common among the moogles of Ivalice, and his winnings have afforded him the luxury of an expertly-tailored wardrobe.
Background: Obsessed with games from the time he was but a tiny mogling, the playful moogle Prasad became almost overly amused with the unpredictable outcomes of games of chance, preferring the comparitively easy win of a lucky roll and the thrilling risk of an unlucky one to the discipline and outright effort neccessary for their skill-based counterparts. Upon reaching adulthood, he left his little village for the big city, using his natural moogle charm to talk his way up to any betting table. Usually, Lady Luck has smiled upon him over the years, but a recent loss of a rather hefty bet has set his life on a different and altogether less enjoyable path...
Quote: "Winning and losing isn't as important as looking good while doing it!"
Traits: Charming, Flight

Stats (LEVEL 2)
HP: 32
MP: 0
Evasion: 10 (9+1 from Nomad's Outfit)
Accuracy: 4

Strength: 2
Vitality: 5
Dexterity: 8
Intelligence: 6
Charisma: 10

Job Abilities:
Epic Ability: Cheat Fate
Innate Ability: Wild Card
Ability 1: Dice
Ability 2: Dual Wield

Equipment
Right Hand: Blutsauger, Tier 2 Gun, Man Eater, (DEX x 2) +1d6 damage
Left Hand: Revolver, Tier 1, (DEX x 1) +1d6 damage
Armor: Nomad's Outfit, 4 ARM, 4 M. ARM, +1 EVA
Ammo: Bronze Bullets

Items:
5x Cards
Smoke Bomb
Gil: 100

Skills:
Preferred Weapon Skill:
Guns: 3
Two Weapons: 3
Any Other Non-Zero Skill:
Language: 2 (Mogri, Common Tongue)
Escape: 3
Negotation: 4
Acting: 3
Awareness: 4
Inquiry: 3

Menarker · 12-07-2009, 10:46 PM

Your quote is very much like the swash-buckling action hero from the webcomic Order of the Stick. :3

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0392.html

Now I'm waiting to see what Arhra will become. Am betting that he's going to choose one of the classes that hasn't been chosen yet... Although the choices are starting to get a little limited if that's the case... Black Mage, Dark Knight, Fighter, Monk, Ninja, Samurai.

(Would also be neat if we got a Galka or Elvvan to round up some of the races just like POS did with choosing Moogle.)

All the same, this should be promising. ^^

12-07-2009, 03:09 PM	#61
phil_ Just sleeping Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: At home, probably in bed. Posts: 6,482	Hey, Truce mentioned slow actions and I have questions about them. When a Slow action actually "fires," does that take up the character's Standard action for that round? Or does the firing just happen and they're free to take a Standard action, like whacking something with a stick or starting up another Slow action? Seems like it should be the second one, since the other way would make casting two spells take five turns, but then again having a spell go off and then making an attack doesn't seem right, either. Actually, never mind, page 117 says it's the second one. Woo for doing spell damage and attack damage on the same round. That should be fun for the healers. __________________ Be T-Rexcellent to each other, tako. Last edited by phil_; 12-07-2009 at 03:12 PM.

12-07-2009, 06:15 PM	#64
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Is it too late to get in on this? I have an idea for something I'm trying to hammer out, but I'm only just now getting some time to look over the rulebook, so it might take a while. You know, like a few hours tops, anyway. Worst case scenario I can get Krylo to summarize the important bits. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

12-07-2009, 08:34 PM	#68
krogothwolf Fetched the Candy Cane! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary Posts: 4,278	We have a wandering PC who could be a villian/ally or competitor! Awesome. Unless he joins the pick on the paladin crowd, then it sucks! Teal drew attention to the fact I put 2.7m as a height when it should have been 1.7m. I adjusted it to 1.7m, unless you don't want me to do that and leave me as a tall huge person. __________________ Knowledge is Power, Power is Knowledge ╔╦╦══╦══╦═╦══╦══╦╗╔╦╦╦╦══╦╗╔═╗ ║═╣╠═║╔╗║╔╣╔╗╠╗╔╣╚╝║║║║╔╗║║║═╣ ║║║╔╗╣╚╝║║║╚╝║║║║╔╗║║║║╚╝║╚╣╔╝ ╚╩╩╝╚╩══╩═╩══╝╚╝╚╝╚╩══╩══╩═╩╝ Last edited by krogothwolf; 12-07-2009 at 09:01 PM.

12-07-2009, 10:30 PM	#69
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Aww here it goes! Name: Prasad Kupowitz Age: 14 Race: Moogle Class: Gambler Appearance: Roughly a meter tall and weighing 25kg, dark gray fur, with royal purple pom-pom and matching wings. Bears the longer ears and more catlike features more common among the moogles of Ivalice, and his winnings have afforded him the luxury of an expertly-tailored wardrobe. Background: Obsessed with games from the time he was but a tiny mogling, the playful moogle Prasad became almost overly amused with the unpredictable outcomes of games of chance, preferring the comparitively easy win of a lucky roll and the thrilling risk of an unlucky one to the discipline and outright effort neccessary for their skill-based counterparts. Upon reaching adulthood, he left his little village for the big city, using his natural moogle charm to talk his way up to any betting table. Usually, Lady Luck has smiled upon him over the years, but a recent loss of a rather hefty bet has set his life on a different and altogether less enjoyable path... Quote: "Winning and losing isn't as important as looking good while doing it!" Traits: Charming, Flight Stats (LEVEL 2) HP: 32 MP: 0 Evasion: 10 (9+1 from Nomad's Outfit) Accuracy: 4 Strength: 2 Vitality: 5 Dexterity: 8 Intelligence: 6 Charisma: 10 Job Abilities: Epic Ability: Cheat Fate Innate Ability: Wild Card Ability 1: Dice Ability 2: Dual Wield Equipment Right Hand: Blutsauger, Tier 2 Gun, Man Eater, (DEX x 2) +1d6 damage Left Hand: Revolver, Tier 1, (DEX x 1) +1d6 damage Armor: Nomad's Outfit, 4 ARM, 4 M. ARM, +1 EVA Ammo: Bronze Bullets Items: 5x Cards Smoke Bomb Gil: 100 Skills: Preferred Weapon Skill: Guns: 3 Two Weapons: 3 Any Other Non-Zero Skill: Language: 2 (Mogri, Common Tongue) Escape: 3 Negotation: 4 Acting: 3 Awareness: 4 Inquiry: 3 __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped. Last edited by POS Industries; 12-24-2009 at 04:36 AM.

12-07-2009, 10:46 PM	#70
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Your quote is very much like the swash-buckling action hero from the webcomic Order of the Stick. :3 http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0392.html Now I'm waiting to see what Arhra will become. Am betting that he's going to choose one of the classes that hasn't been chosen yet... Although the choices are starting to get a little limited if that's the case... Black Mage, Dark Knight, Fighter, Monk, Ninja, Samurai. (Would also be neat if we got a Galka or Elvvan to round up some of the races just like POS did with choosing Moogle.) All the same, this should be promising. ^^ __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

12-07-2009, 05:58 PM	#63
Truce Lakitu Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,856	1. Sure - you'll be able to use it as a slow action. 2. Because the Vehicle shared ability gets some options that simply creating things through synthesis would not give you. So, I'm not going to allow any mixing and matching. I would allow you guys to share a vehicle on your character sheets though. 3. No. Even if you could cannibalize some of your grafts to fix others, it wouldn't be an instant action.

12-07-2009, 07:13 PM	#65
Truce Lakitu Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,856	For now, I'll decide that after Arhra nobody else can join. Ten people is just the limit for two groups, and I don't want to deal with three. POS, I talked to you on AIM about what I have in mind for you. Muwhaha.