Pok?mon Umbral Discussion 11: Silence! I Keel You! - Page 7

Menarker · 04-21-2010, 01:29 AM

Just for the sake of you looking up questions, there was a few brought up.

1: In regards to Divide, when using attacks that do damage and thus would have their power reduced, do special effects that have a chance to get added remain at the same percentage or are they reduced in some way? Example would be if my Magnezone uses Thunderbolt, which has a 30% chance of paralysis. Does it have 30% chance of paralyzing both foes it hit same as it hit only a single foe, or does it get reduced by something like half in addition to the damage being cut by half?

2: In regards to PvP, what is the base stats of slayers and pokebrids, for when one of us is acting as referee between the match?

Can't recall any other urgent questions atm.

Astral Harmony · 04-21-2010, 01:54 AM

Good questions. Let's see here...

1. Chance to inflict status effects is also halved, but here's something you should also consider. The chance to inflict status effects increases if the target Pokemon is weak against the attack type, and even slightly moreso if STAB is involved. In other words, you might decide to not try something like that unless you have the type advantage over multiple foes.

2. Slayers are even across the board as far as statistics go. They're neither experts nor are they weaklings in any one area. They usually overcome this issue with application of their accessories and whatnot.

Pok?brids outside of a Paradigm Shift sort of blend Slayer and Pokemon statistics. If you feel like calculating, it's basically adding those two statistics and dividing by two. When in a Paradigm Shift, though, you add those two statistics without dividing at all. A Paradigm Shift'd Pokebrid is hardcore. One more thing. A Pokebrid can remain Paradigm Shifted for three turns and three turns alone per battle. And they cannot use both Paradigm Shifts in the same battle which means they also cannot use both SynchroTechs.

Geminex · 04-21-2010, 02:34 AM

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2. Slayers are even across the board as far as statistics go. They're neither experts nor are they weaklings in any one area. They usually overcome this issue with application of their accessories and whatnot.

Yes, but what are the numbers? You've mentioned that they're average, but what is average, in this case? 80? 85? The latter might be a bit above-average, but considering the fact that there's just one of him, and trainers can pack as many powerful pokemon as they like, base stats of 85 or even 90 don't seem excessive. Renny's overgrown hedgehog would still be more powerful.

Astral Harmony · 04-21-2010, 02:36 AM

Hmmm...well, how about 100? That's a solid number. It's got a ring to it.

Geminex · 04-21-2010, 03:50 AM

100...

Yes. Yes it does. Solid. Nice ring. It is a very nice number with lots and lots of wonderful connotations and if anyone dares protest against it, I will reach down their esophagus, rip out their gall bladder and stuff it down their windpipe because that number is mine now and I will never let go of it ever.

Post is quite excellent.

Fun song choice for karaoke, though I can't see Rayleen as being sexy, naughty, or bitchy. What I can see her as is being corrupted by Impact's demonic mind control (coming soon to a brain near you!) when her rage is reawoken.

The Nagrai totally needs to get up on stage for Karaoke and sing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFEfmbAeEDY
It would be awesome. Even if it's sung at Impact.

Menarker · 04-21-2010, 04:05 AM

I don't mind, but do keep in mind what that entails. Slayers would be considered equal to power of a pseudo legendary, equal to a standard Shaymin in all ways.

Stamina is as enduring as Swampert which is only a few points shy of most high legendaries like Lugia.
Attack is as strong as Machoke.
Defence as hardy as Blastoise.
Special Attack is as strong as Dragonite.
Special Defence is like Tentacruel and Venusaur.
Speed as fast as Dodrio.

^^ so yeah. Seems weird in proportions for a human, although I can say that's the power of the most basic of the basic of Slayer uniform equipment and such.

Post is neat, although Renny's parents would be shocked for a few reasons. :3

Geminex · 04-21-2010, 04:12 AM

Well, I explain attack and special attack with the fact that, as I've mentioned previously, he's pretty good at pokemon anatomy. He knows where to shoot or stab them to hurt them especially badly. HP, defense and special defense would be provided by armor, and cover. I don't know what he's wearing, but I'll assume that it makes him very capable of resisting damage. Plus, if it's well-trained, the human body can resist quite a bit of punishment. As for speed... he plans ahead a lot, so let's just assume that whenever he finishes one action, he's in position for the next one.

And besides, if your overgrown hedgehog can have those stats, then so can Impact.

There. See? Perfectly rational and justified. Now open your mouth, or I'll have to break your jaw in order to get at your esophagus.

Menarker · 04-21-2010, 04:15 AM

Shaymin is tied for one of the smallest pokemon in the game. Same size as a Digglet, although a bit bigger in flight form (not ridable though). Oversized it isn't.

Geminex · 04-21-2010, 04:44 AM

Overgrown in this case meaning "to be covered in grass and foliage". I am, however, placated by the fact that this is the only point you argue again. You may keep you gall bladder.
*glasses flash*
For now.

Dracorion · 04-21-2010, 10:17 AM

Psst. AB, made up moves for Enmakki. Approve 'em, goddamnit.

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Originally Posted by Dracorion

Dark Abyss (Dark): Enmakki engulfs the target in itself, probing their mind and sending them into a deep sleep where they'll face their worst nightmares cranked up to eleven. 100% chance to inflict sleep status and Nightmare.

Dark Abyss causes Nightmare because I wanted it to be different from Spore. Of course, I realize that getting constant Nightmare damage + Bad Dreams damage + Enmakki's Dream Eater spam could be overpowered, so we can scrap that if AB wants.

Valley of Death (Dark): Enmakki strikes the finishing blow, ripping out a sleeping target's heart. 40% chance to insta-kill sleeping target.

Named as such because I needed a badass name and in the dream the target will be transported to a barrren valley where their nightmare will kill them horribly.

Yes, Valley of Death actually kills the target, even if it's a trainer pokemon. Thanks to Pierce's self-restriction, it'll only be used on Ruin pokemon. For the battle against Enmakki during Pierce's sidequest, it won't have Valley of Death. I'm not going to reveal why it won't have it, but there's a perfectly good reason.

Gem, I think Nagarai will sing that song. It's perfect.

AB, that's your cue to name Aria. Go nuts.

04-21-2010, 01:29 AM	#61
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Just for the sake of you looking up questions, there was a few brought up. 1: In regards to Divide, when using attacks that do damage and thus would have their power reduced, do special effects that have a chance to get added remain at the same percentage or are they reduced in some way? Example would be if my Magnezone uses Thunderbolt, which has a 30% chance of paralysis. Does it have 30% chance of paralyzing both foes it hit same as it hit only a single foe, or does it get reduced by something like half in addition to the damage being cut by half? 2: In regards to PvP, what is the base stats of slayers and pokebrids, for when one of us is acting as referee between the match? Can't recall any other urgent questions atm. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 04-21-2010 at 01:39 AM.

04-21-2010, 04:05 AM	#66
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	I don't mind, but do keep in mind what that entails. Slayers would be considered equal to power of a pseudo legendary, equal to a standard Shaymin in all ways. Stamina is as enduring as Swampert which is only a few points shy of most high legendaries like Lugia. Attack is as strong as Machoke. Defence as hardy as Blastoise. Special Attack is as strong as Dragonite. Special Defence is like Tentacruel and Venusaur. Speed as fast as Dodrio. ^^ so yeah. Seems weird in proportions for a human, although I can say that's the power of the most basic of the basic of Slayer uniform equipment and such. Post is neat, although Renny's parents would be shocked for a few reasons. :3 __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 04-22-2010 at 11:51 AM.

04-21-2010, 04:15 AM	#68
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Shaymin is tied for one of the smallest pokemon in the game. Same size as a Digglet, although a bit bigger in flight form (not ridable though). Oversized it isn't. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

04-21-2010, 01:54 AM	#62
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Good questions. Let's see here... 1. Chance to inflict status effects is also halved, but here's something you should also consider. The chance to inflict status effects increases if the target Pokemon is weak against the attack type, and even slightly moreso if STAB is involved. In other words, you might decide to not try something like that unless you have the type advantage over multiple foes. 2. Slayers are even across the board as far as statistics go. They're neither experts nor are they weaklings in any one area. They usually overcome this issue with application of their accessories and whatnot. Pok?brids outside of a Paradigm Shift sort of blend Slayer and Pokemon statistics. If you feel like calculating, it's basically adding those two statistics and dividing by two. When in a Paradigm Shift, though, you add those two statistics without dividing at all. A Paradigm Shift'd Pokebrid is hardcore. One more thing. A Pokebrid can remain Paradigm Shifted for three turns and three turns alone per battle. And they cannot use both Paradigm Shifts in the same battle which means they also cannot use both SynchroTechs.

04-21-2010, 02:36 AM	#64
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Hmmm...well, how about 100? That's a solid number. It's got a ring to it.

04-21-2010, 03:50 AM	#65
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	100... Yes. Yes it does. Solid. Nice ring. It is a very nice number with lots and lots of wonderful connotations and if anyone dares protest against it, I will reach down their esophagus, rip out their gall bladder and stuff it down their windpipe because that number is mine now and I will never let go of it ever. Post is quite excellent. Fun song choice for karaoke, though I can't see Rayleen as being sexy, naughty, or bitchy. What I can see her as is being corrupted by Impact's demonic mind control (coming soon to a brain near you!) when her rage is reawoken. The Nagrai totally needs to get up on stage for Karaoke and sing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFEfmbAeEDY It would be awesome. Even if it's sung at Impact.

04-21-2010, 04:12 AM	#67
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Well, I explain attack and special attack with the fact that, as I've mentioned previously, he's pretty good at pokemon anatomy. He knows where to shoot or stab them to hurt them especially badly. HP, defense and special defense would be provided by armor, and cover. I don't know what he's wearing, but I'll assume that it makes him very capable of resisting damage. Plus, if it's well-trained, the human body can resist quite a bit of punishment. As for speed... he plans ahead a lot, so let's just assume that whenever he finishes one action, he's in position for the next one. And besides, if your overgrown hedgehog can have those stats, then so can Impact. There. See? Perfectly rational and justified. Now open your mouth, or I'll have to break your jaw in order to get at your esophagus.

04-21-2010, 04:44 AM	#69
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Overgrown in this case meaning "to be covered in grass and foliage". I am, however, placated by the fact that this is the only point you argue again. You may keep you gall bladder. glasses flash For now.