Infraction Bullshit

[Osterbaum]

I'm quite frankly not sure it was such a deserved ban overall.

[Ecks]

Nor am I. But it's not like, y'know, our opinions really MATTER.

[Loyal]

Well, after this post, something had to be done.

[Mirai Gen]

Originally Posted by Loyal

Well, after this post, something had to be done.

And this is your best suggestion?

[Eltargrim]

Well my post was just eaten; the long and short of it was dear god mods, you are a PR mess. I'm not going to touch on whether what's been done was right (Although fifth earned this one), but you guys are presenting such a negative face to the world.

[Loyal]

I suggested nothing. Though were I in their position I probably would've gone with a temp ban, yeah. If you're trying to patch up relations, Fifth's post is not the way to go.

To be honest, ever since Fifth's demotion I figured this was going to happen eventually. With shiney and Meister so suddenly asserting their positions, and in that way, and over someone like Nightshine of all people, there was pretty much no way there wasn't gonna be another spat between the three sooner or later.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Osterbaum

Basically I think that all parties involved could have handled some things better.

Yeah, I conceded as much. Honestly, I do a pretty shit job at keeping my temper in reign when something pisses me off, and I'm trying to get better at it. I'm doing a terrible job at getting better at it, and I still suck pretty hard on that whole "staying calm" business. Sorry, folks!

EDIT: I said it earlier, but I'll say it again, I'm sorry for behaving so poorly in the beginning of this thread. Even if I have problems with the mods, their behavior, and whatnot, and even if it involves me, I really ought to be more mature and calm about it all, and I am very seriously sorry that I wasn't.

Originally Posted by EckScizor

Nor am I. But it's not like, y'know, our opinions really MATTER.

And that's another problem with the current management. They basically went out of their way to say "Hey, if you don't like what we're doing, talk to us about it. We want to hear what you think." Then, maybe three months later at most the Fifth ordeal happened and Shiney spelled out quite clearly that what we said would have absolutely no influence on their decisions. Apart from mixed signals, it's a bit frustrating to know that regardless of what you might say, the mods don't give a fuck. Or at least that's how it came off.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Osterbaum

I'm quite frankly not sure it was such a deserved ban overall.

It was. This has been a while coming- he's been fairly abraisive and caustic towards the mod staff ever since he came back during the stay at the TEMPORARIUM.

Like before his account was the puppet of Odjn or whoever but when it was actually him at the helm he was pretty much always a dick to us. Which he had every right to be, for a little while. But instead of getting over it, his dickitude started to increase as time went by so basically, yeah, he needed moderatorial action of some sort done.

I'm sad to see him go, he was funny and a good guy but man he was simply incapable of not holding a grudge.

Originally Posted by NonCon

the mods don't give a fuck. Or at least that's how it came off.

I do.

And it is a problem, and it will be addressed.

[Osterbaum]

I know all of that, but I'm still not 100% sure it was deserved overall.

But instead of getting over it,

It's difficult to put a time limit on how soon you get over something, though.

[Mirai Gen]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

And it is a problem, and it will be addressed.

Why am I reminded of the six or seven times I heard "We're going to be doing stuff differently now" that pretty much all three of you have said to absolutely no change whatsoever?

I mean the only reason I'm even here is because I find it absolutely absurd how much covering up is being done to put this entire thing to rest with practically no genuine interest to making things 'different' and instead just doing things how we always did sans Fifthfiend. It's like we're not telling the most popular kid to leave, but we're certainly making him feel unwelcome and pouring drinks down his suit.