Pokemon Umbral Discussion 24: I Can Has Pokemon? - Page 7

Geminex · 05-30-2010, 07:50 PM

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Focus basically doubles the power of any pokemon attack for 25 RP.

I know. I was telling myself to concentrate. Nevermind.

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Also for plan "Shock and Awe", hitting hard and fast is only one part of it. If we can do it while barely getting hurt at all, we'll be more imposing (we'd be seen as closer to invincible juggernauts, rather than powerful suicidal attackers)

Eeeeh. Still not worth that many RPs, I think.

I forgot to mention this before, I was planning to have Impact carry 3 Full restore, 1 Max Revive, 2 Rocket Boosters. If Renny uses his, I could replace it.

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Let's do it. I'll be extravagant and probably verging on Overkill, but it'll be awesome. Question is just, can Pierce's pokemon attack and use the Co-op technique at the same time?

Dracorion · 05-30-2010, 07:51 PM

I already asked that question to AB, Gem. Granted, it was more this specific scenario than a general inquiry.

Menarker · 05-30-2010, 07:55 PM

I maintain that we have enough power to finish them off in two/three turns if we play with a bit of defence without using any resources.

Also! AB, you made a mistake in the enemy formations! You put in the medic that was knocked out by Rachel.

Pierce uses that Chizuru Gal-Tech to negate a shitload of turns. 6 in total.

He could flinch all 3 pokemons (one is already asleep), and three of the soldiers. We can then focus on 2 or three of the soldiers, killing them easily. Then we work on the others on the next turn.

Pierce: Does the above mentioned.
Mollesk: Rock Slide 2 soldiers
Swampert: Hammer Arm a soldier
Impact: Attack (Sweep perhaps to hit two of them for the full damage?)
Charlotte: Already declared Buck to be her one attacker while Sol-leck is doing nasty plot.
Matthias: Fire Blast a target.
Wilhelmina: Snipe someone
Harriette: Got Nidoqueen who can attack and Blissey who can sing again.
Rachel: Empoleon can still attack.
Moon: Lanturn and Kingdra can still attack.

But yeah, we can easily put 3 or 4 attackers per active soldier.

Dracorion · 05-30-2010, 07:59 PM

Except if we use Pierce's Co-Op, we could probably kill like four or five enemies instead.

EDIT: You forgot to take into account Moon's Kingdra.

Menarker · 05-30-2010, 08:05 PM

Using an item. And the fact that if your technique FAILS to knock them out, we'd get quite a bit of damage back. Damage we'd have to use more items to recover from.

Wildfire is bound to be a pretty foe and there are probably going to be more tough fights too. I'm pretty much for saving items.

Anyhow, we got enough attackers for 4 attackers on 3 soldiers or 3 attackers on 4 soldiers.

Soldier A: Impact Fire, Matthias Fire Blast, Nidoqueen's Sludge Bomb
Soldier B: Flich, Impact Fire, Buck's Fire Fang, Empoleon's Ice Beam
Soldier C: Flinch, Mollesk Rock Slide, Lanturn's Discharge, Moon's Kingdra's Dragon Pulse, Swampert's Hammer Arm
Solider D: Flinch, Mollesk Rock Slide, Lanturn's Discharge, Wilhelmina's Snipe,
Charizard: Flinch
Blaziken: Flinch (Blissey Sing?)
Typhsosion: Sleeping. Can ignore.
Infernape: Flinch. (Blissey Sing?)

Dracorion · 05-30-2010, 08:14 PM

It's one item, man. And we got a lot of Rocket Boosters, unless you wanna stack 'em up for mass Rocket Booster usage in one big battle.

Geminex · 05-30-2010, 08:17 PM

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I already asked that question to AB, Gem. Granted, it was more this specific scenario than a general inquiry.

I know. That's why I didn't make it orange.

As for Menarker's allocation...
You're having Rachel's, Moon's and Harliette's pokemon attack. Can they? I was under the impression that, if the trainers are flinched, they can't give orders. As such, pokemon couldn't attack.

Menarker · 05-30-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

Flinched trainers can still order their Pokemon, but that's it. They can't switch 'em out, they can't use items on 'em, that kind of thing.

I put their pokemons attacking because AB himself said they could as long as they themselves are not flinched. Look up *or back a page* a bit more.

And yeah, I was thinking of stocking up the boosters a bit. Two of Renny's Booster Sharing ability, and that'll give 50 RP to a whole bunch of people, enough for 100 RP techs. Impact, Pierce, Charlotte, WILHELMINA, among other potentially great stuff. ^^ We'll fuck Wildfire up badly (or so I hope)

EDIT: But yeah, aside from beating the shit out of foes, I'm trying to do it in a way that make the group look invincible since that would be REALLY demoralizing to our foes (never let them see you bleed!) Also forces us to use less items needed to recoup from our wounds in between combat. We can do it without spending tons of time either.

Dracorion · 05-30-2010, 08:37 PM

The HPG soldiers function by the same mechanic we do. They know we can't sustain a perfect defense indefinitely. What we need to do with this small group is slaughter 'em. Specifically, Overkill (and in Pierce's case, Overkill in a non-lethal way).

We can prove that we're impossible to kill when we're facing down a large group of foes.

Menarker · 05-30-2010, 08:41 PM

We don't need to sustain it indefinately. We'll have already wiped out every one of them except for their trainers at the end of the next turn with the tactic I proposed. Then the situation will be completely unrevivable and unwinnable. Without taking any damage. We'd basically prove that we can perform an immense attack force while making any attacks they'd attempt to make rather useless.

05-30-2010, 07:51 PM	#62
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	I already asked that question to AB, Gem. Granted, it was more this specific scenario than a general inquiry. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-30-2010, 07:55 PM	#63
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	I maintain that we have enough power to finish them off in two/three turns if we play with a bit of defence without using any resources. Also! AB, you made a mistake in the enemy formations! You put in the medic that was knocked out by Rachel. Pierce uses that Chizuru Gal-Tech to negate a shitload of turns. 6 in total. He could flinch all 3 pokemons (one is already asleep), and three of the soldiers. We can then focus on 2 or three of the soldiers, killing them easily. Then we work on the others on the next turn. Pierce: Does the above mentioned. Mollesk: Rock Slide 2 soldiers Swampert: Hammer Arm a soldier Impact: Attack (Sweep perhaps to hit two of them for the full damage?) Charlotte: Already declared Buck to be her one attacker while Sol-leck is doing nasty plot. Matthias: Fire Blast a target. Wilhelmina: Snipe someone Harriette: Got Nidoqueen who can attack and Blissey who can sing again. Rachel: Empoleon can still attack. Moon: Lanturn and Kingdra can still attack. But yeah, we can easily put 3 or 4 attackers per active soldier. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 05-30-2010 at 08:08 PM.

05-30-2010, 07:59 PM	#64
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Except if we use Pierce's Co-Op, we could probably kill like four or five enemies instead. EDIT: You forgot to take into account Moon's Kingdra. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away. Last edited by Dracorion; 05-30-2010 at 08:05 PM.

05-30-2010, 08:05 PM	#65
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Using an item. And the fact that if your technique FAILS to knock them out, we'd get quite a bit of damage back. Damage we'd have to use more items to recover from. Wildfire is bound to be a pretty foe and there are probably going to be more tough fights too. I'm pretty much for saving items. Anyhow, we got enough attackers for 4 attackers on 3 soldiers or 3 attackers on 4 soldiers. Soldier A: Impact Fire, Matthias Fire Blast, Nidoqueen's Sludge Bomb Soldier B: Flich, Impact Fire, Buck's Fire Fang, Empoleon's Ice Beam Soldier C: Flinch, Mollesk Rock Slide, Lanturn's Discharge, Moon's Kingdra's Dragon Pulse, Swampert's Hammer Arm Solider D: Flinch, Mollesk Rock Slide, Lanturn's Discharge, Wilhelmina's Snipe, Charizard: Flinch Blaziken: Flinch (Blissey Sing?) Typhsosion: Sleeping. Can ignore. Infernape: Flinch. (Blissey Sing?) __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 05-30-2010 at 08:20 PM.

05-30-2010, 08:14 PM	#66
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	It's one item, man. And we got a lot of Rocket Boosters, unless you wanna stack 'em up for mass Rocket Booster usage in one big battle. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-30-2010, 08:37 PM	#69
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	The HPG soldiers function by the same mechanic we do. They know we can't sustain a perfect defense indefinitely. What we need to do with this small group is slaughter 'em. Specifically, Overkill (and in Pierce's case, Overkill in a non-lethal way). We can prove that we're impossible to kill when we're facing down a large group of foes. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-30-2010, 08:41 PM	#70
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	We don't need to sustain it indefinately. We'll have already wiped out every one of them except for their trainers at the end of the next turn with the tactic I proposed. Then the situation will be completely unrevivable and unwinnable. Without taking any damage. We'd basically prove that we can perform an immense attack force while making any attacks they'd attempt to make rather useless. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!