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Lithp · 08-28-2010, 12:53 AM

Well, if we're not in agreement, then I'd say that there is also no sense saying that the logic is being followed, if one has to assume such things.

And I hate the chapter for its over-the-top ridiculousness.

Arcanum · 08-28-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lithp

And I hate the chapter for its over-the-top ridiculousness.

But that's the best part about it!

Lithp · 08-28-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Arcanum Darkfire

But that's the best part about it!

I can partially agree to this. If there's one thing I can say about Guy & Kisame, it's that they're funny as shit.

Sithdarth · 08-28-2010, 01:26 AM

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then I'd say that there is also no sense saying that the logic is being followed, if one has to assume such things.

Uh no logic is a system with very general rules. As long as those rules are adhered to it doesn't matter how outlandish the assumptions and axioms in use are as long as they are backed up by the events of the story. If the story is predicated on magical Elves that make grass green because a cat walked backwards on some past or future Thursday then the statement A cat walked backwards on Thursday therefore grass is green is a perfectly logical statement and the story is following logic or more specifically its internal logic. You can build a system based on seemingly illogical assumptions and still have a completely logical system. Hyperbolic geometry anyone? If you don't like that there is also Quantum Mechanics, Special and General Relativity, and many other examples in physics and math. The key to properly applying logic in the most pure and general sense is stripping away absolutely everything you think you know and judging the validity of your assumptions and axioms based solely on the validity of the logical conclusions they provide as born out by the system you are applying logic to.

The key to enjoying Shonen Manga is to turn your brain off and enjoy it for what it is.

Lithp · 08-28-2010, 02:27 AM

The problem is that there are plenty of things that are not backed up by reasons given in the story. For example, there is no reasoning for how a humanoid species could exist on a planet with no moon, even though it apparently happened. Assuming that the plot makes sense for no other reason than that it happened that way is circular reasoning.

Kyanbu The Legend · 08-28-2010, 02:33 AM

Who knows, there might of actually been a moon before (and was destroyed by something). Heck the Sages of the six paths could very well be Naruto's version of Gods.

Lithp · 08-28-2010, 02:54 AM

In which case, that would be a reasonable explanation for the moon bullshit. Still, I may be forced to ragequit the manga if that happens.

But, yeah, I can kind of ignore the moon thing because I was kind of digging this "the most badass Naruto characters are like mythological beings" thing for a while.

Art of Hilt · 08-28-2010, 03:32 AM

Wait what, the Naruto world has no moon.
Whaat are you guys being serious here.
No wait why is there no moon, why is the existence of the moon and its subsequent erasure even brought up in the first place.

Lithp · 08-28-2010, 03:37 AM

I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but there was a recent thing about how the Sage of the Six Paths created the moon to house the body of the Ten Tailed Beast. Oh, & Madara wants to use it to hypnotize the world.

That's so dumb when you say it out loud....

Art of Hilt · 08-28-2010, 03:41 AM

I- okay, so the moon was a recent invention?
And it has a... Ten-Tailed Beast?
I-, I- why am I reading this manga again?

EDIT- oh right because of Gai punching flaming tigers okay.

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08-28-2010, 02:27 AM	#65
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	The problem is that there are plenty of things that are not backed up by reasons given in the story. For example, there is no reasoning for how a humanoid species could exist on a planet with no moon, even though it apparently happened. Assuming that the plot makes sense for no other reason than that it happened that way is circular reasoning. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

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Kyanbu The Legend Local Rookie Indie Dev Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,497	Who knows, there might of actually been a moon before (and was destroyed by something). Heck the Sages of the six paths could very well be Naruto's version of Gods. __________________

08-28-2010, 02:54 AM	#67
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	In which case, that would be a reasonable explanation for the moon bullshit. Still, I may be forced to ragequit the manga if that happens. But, yeah, I can kind of ignore the moon thing because I was kind of digging this "the most badass Naruto characters are like mythological beings" thing for a while. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

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08-28-2010, 03:37 AM	#69
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but there was a recent thing about how the Sage of the Six Paths created the moon to house the body of the Ten Tailed Beast. Oh, & Madara wants to use it to hypnotize the world. That's so dumb when you say it out loud.... __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

08-28-2010, 03:41 AM	#70
Art of Hilt tamp tamp tamp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,270	I- okay, so the moon was a recent invention? And it has a... Ten-Tailed Beast? I-, I- why am I reading this manga again? EDIT- oh right because of Gai punching flaming tigers okay. __________________ Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'. Tossed salad and scrambled eggs Oh My! Mercy! And maybe I seem a bit confused, yeah maybe, but I got you pegged! But I don�t know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs. They're calling again.