Pokemon Umbral Theatre 13: Armored Goes West - Page 7

Dracorion · 10-24-2010, 07:26 PM

Good luck getting an answer.

Menarker · 10-24-2010, 07:38 PM

Well, AB was here not too long ago. So it's entirely possible.

Drac, not trying to be annoying in any fashion, but would it be a problem if you could edit the battle plans in the post? So if we want to re-read it, we don't have to scramble through the discussion threads to see what the attacks were? Since no one posted a battle post.

By the way, there is one thing I want to discuss with you guys, hopefully without any flame wars or anything. Remember how way way back we had that Mollesk argument about his custom move since everyone was making custom moves for their legendary and Mollesk didn't have one? And how I was going to have a powerful bug type move with life leeching and haze and that sort of thing?

Tentacle Leech was Mollesk custom legendary move. Basically, when the conversation ended, it was 80 Base Power before STAB. Bug type 50% Health drain and single target Haze on target hit. The move was discussed way back in Discussion Thread 31. I think you guys just forgot about it among the various topics we were talking about and we didn't actually agree on anything.

In the interest of the preservation of balance that I agreed to (and hopefully so none of you say that I have to nerf Renny's development in the process.) I am willing to change things quite a bit.

Tentacle Probe: 120 Power. Bug Type. Hit 2 Targets that don't have to be side by side. Dispel all positive buffs, not removing any debuffs.

Powerful still, but doesn't have any of that healing thing, so it doesn't make Mollesk powerful defense even more so. And it doesn't combo with Simple ability either. Strictly no combo potential. A strong move with a useful although situational utility purpose.

Any thoughts?

Dracorion · 10-24-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Menarker

Drac, not trying to be annoying in any fashion, but would it be a problem if you could edit the battle plans in the post? So if we want to re-read it, we don't have to scramble through the discussion threads to see what the attacks were? Since no one posted a battle post.

No.

You wanna know why?

Because next time you want to know your battle plans, you should actually fucking post.

That said, just by looking at your attacking phase you should be able to more or less guess who did what. The only confusing bit is which attacks were specifically used, and Whitney's and Armaldo's particular targets.

Can't figure it out? Actually post next time.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

Tentacle Probe: 120 Power. Bug Type. Hit 2 Targets that don't have to be side by side. Dispel all positive buffs, not removing any debuffs.

No.

Seriously, what's wrong with you?

Look at all the other custom Legendaries' moves.

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Allegion: Thunder Crush (2 foes, 100 Pwr, 30% Paralyze, Electric)

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Enmakki: Dark Abyss: 1 foe, 100% Sleep and Nightmare. 1-turn recharge.

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Revenard:
Name: TBA
Revenard's custom attack.Name: TBA
Type: Ghost/physical
Power: 80
Description: Revenard maneuvers and makes his way to the foe, and sinks his teeth into the foe. Damage doesn't seem terrible at first, but the foe will shortly after feel a sharp drop in vitality, despite the wound being rather ignorable. In addition, Revenard seems to be more energized, and some of his wounds begin to fade away.
Effects: The foe takes physical ghost damage, and 1/3 of the damage done is added to Revenard's HP.

The most powerful one is Enmaki's Dark Abyss, and it has a one-turn recharge so that balances it out.

Aside from Legendaries, Adamantitar's ability is a smidgen on the powerful side. But I can't see you complaining seeing as how it helps Mollesk too.

And don't try to make the "Mollesk's Attack is sub-par" argument. It's already a defensive wall. Even if it's Attack isn't great, its moves shouldn't be that powerful.

Revenard's move is much like your proposed Tentacle Leech, except it heals for less and Revenard isn't a tank.

I want to wait for Geminex's opinion, but I'm guessing two options:

70 power, 2 targets, Haze effect.
Or.
70 power, 1 target, dispel positive buffs but does not remove debuffs.

Menarker · 10-24-2010, 10:40 PM

Now that you posted the custom moves for those two, I pretty much agree that even the new one I suggested is too much...

100 Power. 2 targets. Dispel positive buffs but does not remove debuffs.

It's similar to Allegion's attack, except that it dispell buffs instead of paralysing. And since not all foes use buffs, that makes it roughly equal when you consider that paralysis is useful against almost any foe. Dispel doesn't do anything unless they get buffs in the first place.

And I don't know why you brought up Adamatitar's ability. We were talking about custom legendary pokemons moves not abilities. I never had any problem with the ability either, so I had no intent on debating that either.

EDIT: And I just asked about the entire editing thing in case someone wants to read through the archive and suddenly see a battle that doesn't explain what the hell is going on. Seriously, it's copying and pasting two battle plans. I would do it myself if I had the ability to edit your post.

Then again, if I could edit your posts, there would be some wild zany shit going down! =P

Dracorion · 10-24-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Menarker

100 Power. 2 targets. Dispel positive buffs but does not remove debuffs.

It's similar to Allegion's attack, except that it dispell buffs instead of paralysing. And since not all foes use buffs, that makes it roughly equal when you consider that paralysis is useful against almost any foe. Dispel doesn't do anything unless they get buffs in the first place.

Not quite. Dispelling buffs, especially considering you suggested to AB that he came up with battles involving pre-buffed enemies, is extremely more powerful than Paralysis.

Especially when Allegion's is a 30% chance.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

EDIT: And I just asked about the entire editing thing in case someone wants to read through the archive and suddenly see a battle that doesn't explain what the hell is going on. Seriously, it's copying and pasting two battle plans. I would do it myself if I had the ability to edit your post.

Of course it'd be too easy to edit them in. But there's a principle involved here.

If you want a hypothetical person reading the RP threads not to get confused, then you should get off your lazy ass and write a stupid post.

Even if it's only the battle plan.

Menarker · 10-24-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dracorion

Not quite. Dispelling buffs, especially considering you suggested to AB that he came up with battles involving pre-buffed enemies, is extremely more powerful than Paralysis.

Hmmm... Now that you mention it, I do want AB to want to use the pre-buffing thing more often. I don't want AB to deny it for the reason that I/we'd just be able to void it off and thus make his efforts useless.

So... I change my mind about having a haze/dispell effect on it.

Still want to have a special effect to it though. Not putting healing on it or a stat increase buff on it though.

Any suggestions of what you might find appropriate? Otherwise, I'll keep thinking. ^^; Although my craziest idea was just to have as a simple attack of 100 power but be able to hit 3 targets. I doubt that would ever be allowed though.

And I wasn't being lazy. I have university too. Had 2 exams, a group project and a paper on top of work. And Renny nowhere on the scene.

Dracorion · 10-24-2010, 11:44 PM

Phhbbbttt.

Who doesn't?

Astral Harmony · 10-25-2010, 05:55 PM

This ship is retarded. I'm not going to go into why, simply because they're far too many reasons. I'll just say that it's retarded and leave it at that.

Also, mark your calendars. Apparently, October is official "God Takes a Big Steaming Shit on Armored Bishoujo" Month.

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Other than that, there weren't very many issues, other than you guys having fun while I was trapped at teambuilding and communication camp, and I can hardly fault you for that. And yes, seriously. I just spent 5 days with my colleagues/classmates, learning about communication, teamwork and the power of friendship. And I wish I was joking about the friendship bit, but some parts were just nauseatingly idealistic. Though I did learn quite a bit.

I get the feeling Geminex encountered the live action version of Renny Tresserhorn.

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AB: Do Killbots have the water/electric weaknesses of standard mechs?

Nope. That'd kinda make it too easy to kill. All enemies will either have the type or attribute in parenthesis after their names to help you understand which weaknesses they possess. For example:

Killdoll (Almighty) is an Almighty type foe. No strengths, no weaknesses, not even STAB, just like that custom demon Dracorion has for Sophia's arsenal.

Dragonmaw Tank (Mechanical/Armored/L-Type) is a Mechanical attribute foe with an Armored defense and uses two spaces in a formation setup. Lightning and Water type weaknesses at all times, hackable by Matthias and susceptible to Overload and Short ONLY when inflicted with Fracture, which usually happens around the 30% health remaining point.

My time on the Internet is pretty limited and, starting next week, will for a good couple of weeks be most likely nonexistent. I haven't read the RP post but it sounds like Dracorion did a good job. I don't think I have enough time to read it since I want to keep up with the other RPs.

Speaking of which, I'll have the next parts of the plot typed up (and some fun enemies Dracorion can play around with) this weekend, as well as dealing with the other PMs Dracorion had for me. Mostly, after the second battle, I want everyone to be reunited for the back-to-back boss fights ahead, which will help Dracorion decide how long to prolong his own fights.

Dracorion · 10-25-2010, 05:58 PM

Actually, I think that means I've been stalling mine a trifle too long.

Oh well. 'S my fight. Not like I can't do two turns in one post once or twice to keep up.

Cheer up AB, October's almost over!

Astral Harmony · 10-25-2010, 06:07 PM

You could always freestyle your fights. I mean, it's just you and Elizabeth fighting, right? Do some Matrixy shit like have Elizabeth shoot at you while you that bent-back dodge-underneath-the-bullets-in-slow-motion thing.

Oh, shit, that's right! I gotta get you Violet and Ricewood's info as well as some creature info for one of those fights. Either the Elan or Sluggy one, I think? I don't remember, I gotta read your script again. If God is kind enough to pinch it off for today, I should have that typed up for you tonight.

10-24-2010, 07:26 PM	#61
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Good luck getting an answer. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

10-24-2010, 07:38 PM	#62
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Well, AB was here not too long ago. So it's entirely possible. Drac, not trying to be annoying in any fashion, but would it be a problem if you could edit the battle plans in the post? So if we want to re-read it, we don't have to scramble through the discussion threads to see what the attacks were? Since no one posted a battle post. By the way, there is one thing I want to discuss with you guys, hopefully without any flame wars or anything. Remember how way way back we had that Mollesk argument about his custom move since everyone was making custom moves for their legendary and Mollesk didn't have one? And how I was going to have a powerful bug type move with life leeching and haze and that sort of thing? Tentacle Leech was Mollesk custom legendary move. Basically, when the conversation ended, it was 80 Base Power before STAB. Bug type 50% Health drain and single target Haze on target hit. The move was discussed way back in Discussion Thread 31. I think you guys just forgot about it among the various topics we were talking about and we didn't actually agree on anything. In the interest of the preservation of balance that I agreed to (and hopefully so none of you say that I have to nerf Renny's development in the process.) I am willing to change things quite a bit. Tentacle Probe: 120 Power. Bug Type. Hit 2 Targets that don't have to be side by side. Dispel all positive buffs, not removing any debuffs. Powerful still, but doesn't have any of that healing thing, so it doesn't make Mollesk powerful defense even more so. And it doesn't combo with Simple ability either. Strictly no combo potential. A strong move with a useful although situational utility purpose. Any thoughts? __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 10-24-2010 at 07:45 PM.

10-24-2010, 10:40 PM	#64
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Now that you posted the custom moves for those two, I pretty much agree that even the new one I suggested is too much... 100 Power. 2 targets. Dispel positive buffs but does not remove debuffs. It's similar to Allegion's attack, except that it dispell buffs instead of paralysing. And since not all foes use buffs, that makes it roughly equal when you consider that paralysis is useful against almost any foe. Dispel doesn't do anything unless they get buffs in the first place. And I don't know why you brought up Adamatitar's ability. We were talking about custom legendary pokemons moves not abilities. I never had any problem with the ability either, so I had no intent on debating that either. EDIT: And I just asked about the entire editing thing in case someone wants to read through the archive and suddenly see a battle that doesn't explain what the hell is going on. Seriously, it's copying and pasting two battle plans. I would do it myself if I had the ability to edit your post. Then again, if I could edit your posts, there would be some wild zany shit going down! =P __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 10-24-2010 at 10:59 PM.

10-24-2010, 11:44 PM	#67
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Phhbbbttt. Who doesn't? __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

10-25-2010, 05:58 PM	#69
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Actually, I think that means I've been stalling mine a trifle too long. Oh well. 'S my fight. Not like I can't do two turns in one post once or twice to keep up. Cheer up AB, October's almost over! __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

10-25-2010, 06:07 PM	#70
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	You could always freestyle your fights. I mean, it's just you and Elizabeth fighting, right? Do some Matrixy shit like have Elizabeth shoot at you while you that bent-back dodge-underneath-the-bullets-in-slow-motion thing. Oh, shit, that's right! I gotta get you Violet and Ricewood's info as well as some creature info for one of those fights. Either the Elan or Sluggy one, I think? I don't remember, I gotta read your script again. If God is kind enough to pinch it off for today, I should have that typed up for you tonight.