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DanteFalcon · 01-31-2012, 04:27 PM

Kite shields do still give some leg protection they just aren't giant rectangles that were heavy as all hell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_shield

And....considering payload requirement. Thinking about 4 or so (just because it has to be thick enough to block bullets which would add considerable weight) That's open to argument though. And adding the specialty of Defensive Armament to the combat tree.

Menarker · 01-31-2012, 04:31 PM

Oooh... Gotta think. I would be happy if the Shield was at 3 Payload. Although I guess if it protects well enough, I can just move one point from Back-Up Systems to Payload.

Speaking of that, any idea how much it would protect or if there are any requirement/restrictions? Such as chance of failure to block attacks from the side or behind, where the chance of success is determined partly by where it is coming from and my reflex stat and such?

Also, do jammers effect my own radar as well or just my foes and allies? IE: Everyone who is not me. (Which would be completely in character!) And do the jammers just shuts down their radar or just everyone's signatures not register properly on the radar? (The former would be more noticable than the latter)

DanteFalcon · 01-31-2012, 04:39 PM

As to how much it protects that hearkens back to when the kite shield was actually used. It would protect your mid-section down to the foreleg (usually the left foreleg unless your left handed in which case its the right foreleg). If in front of you your cockpit would be exceptionally well protected unless you have your cockpit located in a weird location. The visual obfuscation tech wise is easy enough to resolve so that isn't really a factor.

It would block most conventional weaponry at least for a time. Given enough bullets it'll get torn to shreds as well so it isn't invulnerable. The downside is, ironically, flamethrowers will still be incredibly nasty to you and it wouldn't really be able to protect one side of you, or a large part of the front of your body at once. Unless you decided to dual wield shields in which case I'd be face-palming so hard.

Geminex · 01-31-2012, 04:41 PM

I was working on the guns before, and I was thinking it'd effectively end up giving you a certain directional bonus to armor. Like, maybe +2 armor? In one direction? That seems pretty fair, for 4 payload. And since you're specializing, maybe you can justify cutting it to 3, though it gets pretty strong then. Especially if you can use it while actually moving at full speed.

Just a suggestion, though.

Overcast · 01-31-2012, 04:55 PM

Hmm are our generator systems advanced enough that I can use a directed emp weapon via melee combat? I'd likely need a backup generator just to power it, but it doesn't seem infeasible for me to attach a huge capacitor to a rod.

DanteFalcon · 01-31-2012, 04:57 PM

That's actually a really interesting idea Overcast. I'm gonna say at this point not yet but probably will become an option after a few missions.

Menarker · 01-31-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DanteFalcon

Unless you decided to dual wield shields in which case I'd be face-palming so hard.

I thought of that before and I figured that would be your reaction.

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Originally Posted by Geminex

I was working on the guns before, and I was thinking it'd effectively end up giving you a certain directional bonus to armor. Like, maybe +2 armor? In one direction? That seems pretty fair, for 4 payload. And since you're specializing, maybe you can justify cutting it to 3, though it gets pretty strong then. Especially if you can use it while actually moving at full speed.

Just a suggestion, though.

Gem's idea is pretty much what I figured it would be and I would be happy with the 3 payload with specialization for +2 armor.

Basically... If I could describe it... Think of an analog clock. The shield would (in theory) be able to block attacks coming from the 11, 12 and 1 o'clock region with ease. With a bit of reaction or adjustment, I might be able to shift my shield to protect closer toward the 9-10-11 or the 1-2-3 region or something like that. But anything from the back half of my torso is not going to be protected. I would have to turn around until my 6 was my new 12 or something like that, which would obviously just leave my back open to attack in the other direction.

DanteFalcon · 01-31-2012, 05:04 PM

This is accurate for the most part. They generally aren't quite wide enough to protect 3 "hours" at once while stationary but factoring that you can adapt your movement to swing a shield in a protective manner like that its feasible and that's probably how I'd treat it.

Aldurin · 01-31-2012, 05:09 PM

what would the requirements be to properly dual-wield 180 degree tower shields? That way I could literally hunker down with full radial protection as my turrets rain death on my enemies.

DanteFalcon · 01-31-2012, 05:12 PM

More payload than I care to think about off the top of my head and a certain amount of disregard for your own safety. Turrets are not a be all-end all due to their lackluster targetting, and hiding in such a state asks to become a target. Yes the shields would protect you but the complete and utter lack of mobility means your an easy target.

01-31-2012, 04:27 PM	#61
DanteFalcon Birdy Bard Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japanland Posts: 501	Kite shields do still give some leg protection they just aren't giant rectangles that were heavy as all hell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_shield And....considering payload requirement. Thinking about 4 or so (just because it has to be thick enough to block bullets which would add considerable weight) That's open to argument though. And adding the specialty of Defensive Armament to the combat tree. __________________ Signature Placeholder. Last edited by DanteFalcon; 01-31-2012 at 04:29 PM.

01-31-2012, 04:31 PM	#62
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Oooh... Gotta think. I would be happy if the Shield was at 3 Payload. Although I guess if it protects well enough, I can just move one point from Back-Up Systems to Payload. Speaking of that, any idea how much it would protect or if there are any requirement/restrictions? Such as chance of failure to block attacks from the side or behind, where the chance of success is determined partly by where it is coming from and my reflex stat and such? Also, do jammers effect my own radar as well or just my foes and allies? IE: Everyone who is not me. (Which would be completely in character!) And do the jammers just shuts down their radar or just everyone's signatures not register properly on the radar? (The former would be more noticable than the latter) __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 01-31-2012 at 04:43 PM.

01-31-2012, 04:39 PM	#63
DanteFalcon Birdy Bard Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japanland Posts: 501	As to how much it protects that hearkens back to when the kite shield was actually used. It would protect your mid-section down to the foreleg (usually the left foreleg unless your left handed in which case its the right foreleg). If in front of you your cockpit would be exceptionally well protected unless you have your cockpit located in a weird location. The visual obfuscation tech wise is easy enough to resolve so that isn't really a factor. It would block most conventional weaponry at least for a time. Given enough bullets it'll get torn to shreds as well so it isn't invulnerable. The downside is, ironically, flamethrowers will still be incredibly nasty to you and it wouldn't really be able to protect one side of you, or a large part of the front of your body at once. Unless you decided to dual wield shields in which case I'd be face-palming so hard. __________________ Signature Placeholder.

01-31-2012, 04:55 PM	#65
Overcast Cinderella Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Trespassing in the graveyard Posts: 3,076	Hmm are our generator systems advanced enough that I can use a directed emp weapon via melee combat? I'd likely need a backup generator just to power it, but it doesn't seem infeasible for me to attach a huge capacitor to a rod. __________________ Time to bust out the glow sticks!

01-31-2012, 04:57 PM	#66
DanteFalcon Birdy Bard Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japanland Posts: 501	That's actually a really interesting idea Overcast. I'm gonna say at this point not yet but probably will become an option after a few missions. __________________ Signature Placeholder.

01-31-2012, 04:41 PM	#64
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	I was working on the guns before, and I was thinking it'd effectively end up giving you a certain directional bonus to armor. Like, maybe +2 armor? In one direction? That seems pretty fair, for 4 payload. And since you're specializing, maybe you can justify cutting it to 3, though it gets pretty strong then. Especially if you can use it while actually moving at full speed. Just a suggestion, though.

01-31-2012, 05:04 PM	#68
DanteFalcon Birdy Bard Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japanland Posts: 501	This is accurate for the most part. They generally aren't quite wide enough to protect 3 "hours" at once while stationary but factoring that you can adapt your movement to swing a shield in a protective manner like that its feasible and that's probably how I'd treat it. __________________ Signature Placeholder.

01-31-2012, 05:09 PM	#69
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	what would the requirements be to properly dual-wield 180 degree tower shields? That way I could literally hunker down with full radial protection as my turrets rain death on my enemies.

01-31-2012, 05:12 PM	#70
DanteFalcon Birdy Bard Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japanland Posts: 501	More payload than I care to think about off the top of my head and a certain amount of disregard for your own safety. Turrets are not a be all-end all due to their lackluster targetting, and hiding in such a state asks to become a target. Yes the shields would protect you but the complete and utter lack of mobility means your an easy target. __________________ Signature Placeholder.