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Unread 10-01-2011, 01:38 AM   #701
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Unread 10-01-2011, 03:22 AM   #702
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Yes that is exactly correct guys I am a mafia player who is pulling a suicide gambit where in i vote my self to try and die so that you don't lynch me...... It's all just a bluff.

Thats why i'm voting to lynch my self and am trying actively to get every one else to lynch me to prove kareshs role.
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Unread 10-01-2011, 04:58 AM   #703
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I haven't trusted him all game and now he wants us to call his bluff. I am inclined, upon hearing the words, "call my bluff" to do just that, because it's the last thing people expect. And if we can confirm one way or the other kareshs role then it'll be worth it.
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Unread 10-01-2011, 05:44 AM   #704
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actually my exact words are "Please do kill me" I mean seriously guys what the fuck. It's no bluff but you guys are acting like it is. Since when do fucking mafia ever go "Vote for me!" but regardless please do kill me safest way to prove karesh is fluttershy and killing me on day 4 like snake suggested is pants on head retarded by that point it's usually mislynch and town lose.
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Unread 10-01-2011, 06:37 AM   #705
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Unread 10-01-2011, 06:39 AM   #706
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actually my exact words are "Please do kill me" I mean seriously guys what the fuck. It's no bluff but you guys are acting like it is. Since when do fucking mafia ever go "Vote for me!" but regardless please do kill me safest way to prove karesh is fluttershy and killing me on day 4 like snake suggested is pants on head retarded by that point it's usually mislynch and town lose.
There's ways to prove it without you getting lynched, lets at least wait and see if the Vig will take this shot at me or not.
Or, alternately, if this party will go down.

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Unread 10-01-2011, 07:23 AM   #707
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Town aligned roles all target Karesh; mafia and SK are going to completely ignore him, attack random people, we will be down 2 roles.

Snake suggested course of action, confirming Snake to be the SK to me.

Sticking with voting Snake.
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Unread 10-01-2011, 07:26 AM   #708
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Yea I don't agree with having all the town power roles being used on karesh it's rather silly.
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Unread 10-01-2011, 07:27 AM   #709
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Also guys when you lynch me my request is you lynch the hell out of nikose because fuuuuck is he suspicious.
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Unread 10-01-2011, 07:48 AM   #710
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Suspicious actions: Pointing out a bad plan.

Completely not suspicious actions: posting walls of text that force those who disagree into submission because it's easier to agree then put up with 3 posts in a row that are more essays, from a University student who's studying the art of Writing Much and Saying Nothing.

This is the man that we all are siding with here. I'm going to point that out, and remind you all again, this is the man that made arguments more illogical than mine, and continuously bashed my own- Arguments that Sifright agrees with, actually.

Despite how 'scummy' it apparently is to enjoy a game and continue acting as I normally do [That is, silly and casually accusatory], I'm actually writing a post with some seriousness to say, He's clearly the SK and stands out like a sore thumb, and if he survives tonight, we have a worse than 1 in 4 chance to lose one of our 3 power roles [Vig, PO, BG].


TL;DR Doing the maths after this point here:


Wait I'm actually going to do the math for that.


Currently 18 Players; assume 5 mafiates, 1 SK, 11 Town, 1 confirmed immune town.

Mafia kills 1 of 12 people. 3 of those are likely power roles[BG, Vig, PO].
Ergo, Mafia swing has a 1 in 4 chance of hitting a power role.

SK targets among the 16 players, and has a 1 in roughly 6 chance of hitting a friendly role, or a 1 in ~3 chance of hitting a mafiate right now.

Now Back to the good Part [Logic]:

So, NO, Town power roles, do not just hit Karesh tonight. Sifright was a better vote target as a way of confirming and not wasting night kills, BUT EVEN SO we could completely ignore Sifright and Karesh, have night roles act freely as they are meant to, so the Bodyguard could defend anyone they wished, Vig could swing and have a chance to hit a legitimate target, and PO could investigate, I dunno, ANYONE [Like Me, or Ryanderman, or Snake, or Sifright.]

The thing that leads me MOST against Snake was his continual Overthinking of Karesh's role when there's no reason to continue down that path. RO did that earlier today* [Game day] and Snake has been doing it continuously. There's no logic to "Aha you have fallen into my trap of voting for someone voting randomly and joining a bandwagon" "But what if Fenris knew we'd know that we knew that he chose to..." Snake is smarter than that. He's making purposeful bad faith arguements against Karesh, the only role that HE CANNOT KILL, and when he could not lead a lynch, opted to lead ALL THE TOWN'S NIGHT ACTIONS against Karesh.

If there is a scummier action then encouraging the entire town to blast Karesh, and waste every night action we have?

Snake is making arguments that would make Descartes proud.
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