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Unread 07-23-2010, 06:26 PM   #721
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But this is Bleach and Kubo is a troll.
Occam's Razor.

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Re-checking the old issues, it looks like Capts Shortstuff, Bitchninja and Calvinball got cut down after they all tried to shank Aizen and he was like "lulz it's really Hinamori".
But not all characters have as good of excuses to be MIA.

Unohona-Presumably healing the wounded, but she could still fight. Her Shikai alone allows this. Who's to say her bankai's power isn't just "heal & fight at the same time"?

Kensei-We never see the end result of his battle with Wonderweiss.

Love & Rose-I might be wrong about these 2, but IIRC, they were just kinda tossed away by Aizen. Did they hit their heads? If so, that's kinda lame.

Mashiro-Was she really in THAT bad of shape from Wonderweiss?

Even among the ones that were legitimately knocked out, we could really use an update on their progress, instead of half a page of a far away look at Aizen walking.
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Unread 07-23-2010, 06:35 PM   #722
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Occam's Razor.
doesn't really work in fiction, especially in shonen series. I mean according to Occam's Razor, which says the solution with the least number of assumptions is correct. This whole thing is just Aizen doing a mind screw.
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Unread 07-23-2010, 06:44 PM   #723
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doesn't really work in fiction, especially in shonen series. I mean according to Occam's Razor, which says the solution with the least number of assumptions is correct. This whole thing is just Aizen doing a mind screw.
The problem is, if you say, "Occam's Razor doesn't matter," you can assert without evidence. You create an unfalsifiable claim. This makes it pointless to ask for "proof" that a character is dead.

The answer is obvious: The character is dead unless the death is retconned.

Occam's Razor does matter, because Occam's Razor only applies to how valid your argument is. Occam's Razor said that there wasn't a 10 Tail in Naruto. That doesn't mean that the people who said there wouldn't be one were wrong in their reasoning. It's not their fault that Kishimoto pulled it out of his ass.

Additionally, Tite Kubo hasn't really done anything so far that didn't have some kind of foreshadowing to it. It was implied that there was something wrong with Aizen's "corpse." Mention was made several times that Yammy was "storing up power" for something. Ulquiorra's 2nd release could be predicted by the fact that his power is similar to a Zanpakuto. We know that Aizen would power up with the Hougyokou at some point. Mention was made very early on that someone was sending Hollows after Ichigo.
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Unread 07-23-2010, 08:32 PM   #724
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I think the real problem here is what a terrible troll lithp is.
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Unread 07-23-2010, 08:41 PM   #725
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The problem is, if you say, "Occam's Razor doesn't matter," you can assert without evidence. You create an unfalsifiable claim. This makes it pointless to ask for "proof" that a character is dead.
first off thats not Occam's Razor, as I said its merely a method of logic to draw conclusions. The solution with the most evidence isn't always the correct one according to Occam's Razor

Secondly, yes thats exactly what I'm saying. This is fiction, there could be any number of reasons the "proof" isn't valid. Take Tousen for example. He had his throat stabbed, massive gash put in, then his body cut in half. Do you think it would suprise me, or many others, if he showed up again, alive?
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Unread 07-23-2010, 08:47 PM   #726
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Wait a minute...
if Lithp is a troll and so is Tite Kubo...
Lithp = troll = Tite Kubo
Lithp = Tite Kubo
Lithp is Kubo!!!

That's why we're predicting all this weird shit in Bleach with startling accuracy!
Lithp/Kubo milks NPF for ideas!!!!!
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Unread 07-23-2010, 09:42 PM   #727
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AWESOME!

NEXT CHAPTER, CAN YOU PUT IN SHARKTOPUS!?
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Unread 07-24-2010, 03:55 AM   #728
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Wait a minute...
if Lithp is a troll and so is Tite Kubo...
Lithp = troll = Tite Kubo
Lithp = Tite Kubo
Lithp is Kubo!!!

That's why we're predicting all this weird shit in Bleach with startling accuracy!
Lithp/Kubo milks NPF for ideas!!!!!
Shit, they're on to me! Well, since you asked so nicely...I'll do you even better. Can you say, Don Sosuke Sharktopus?

But, seriously, this is all a matter of asking a loaded question. If you ask for "proof" of a character's demise, this is what people are going to tell you.

Aerozord, I really don't know what you expect to get out of me. Surely we've had enough dealings that you know I don't do arguments from illogic. Just because something CAN happen, it doesn't mean we should consider it at all likely.

Also, the solution with the most evidence is the most valid according to Occam's Razor. Occam's Razor can't prove something correct. True/false=/=Valid/invalid.
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Unread 07-24-2010, 12:48 PM   #729
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I just want you to realize that reasonable assumptions aren't always the most likely ones. Writers make choices based on the needs of the narrative, not what makes the most real life sense or logic. For example losing your lower body should be a death sentence, but we saw that wasn't the case. Death is cheap in shonen series, actual perma-death is very rare of the good guys. Bleach is no exception where its even rare to off bad guys. Rangiku for example, the likelihood she is dead is almost non-existant. If death was to occur it would most likely be played for deeper emotional impact not simply for the characters but the readers. Not gonna off someone alone, off screen.

You aren't applying the right logic to your assumptions. Not that the logic is inherently wrong, just wrong for the subject matter.
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