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Unread 01-03-2008, 05:36 PM   #781
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Why do you need to explain a vote from page 63? He turned up Serial Killer and you voted for scum. The only problem I have is that you are trying to make yourself look good at the expense of someone who cannot challenge the conjectures you are making.

I thought the reason he did all of that was that he was sick of playing and wanted to be lynched, that really rules out the whole "my only chance of winning is to kill all of you or have the cult induct me I'm just goona kill you all randomly one by one at night so if you could please refrain from lynching me." bit.
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Unread 01-03-2008, 05:39 PM   #782
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Well of course there's that possibility. I'm choosing newb over RR as the play because RR is a less of a potential threat.

And I can't double check Newb's claims anymore as my powers are two-shot.
That's fine, but hopefully someone else may be able to.

And that's an absolutely fair point, if Newb IS a threat, he'll be active while RR isn't for the next... what?... Two weeks? I just think that may be a risk that's manageable, and if you're wrong about RR, we know Russian has a gun.

But sure, I can see how RR might be less of the threat for the forseeable future.
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Unread 01-03-2008, 08:42 PM   #783
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Why do you need to explain a vote from page 63? He turned up Serial Killer and you voted for scum. The only problem I have is that you are trying to make yourself look good at the expense of someone who cannot challenge the conjectures you are making.

I thought the reason he did all of that was that he was sick of playing and wanted to be lynched, that really rules out the whole "my only chance of winning is to kill all of you or have the cult induct me I'm just goona kill you all randomly one by one at night so if you could please refrain from lynching me." bit.
Thank you. Thats why all along I said killing him was pointless. Even if a Cult could cult him the relationship wouldn't have lasted very long. Demetrius was going to die eventually.
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Wait, let me make sure I understand this.

The theory is if RR = not scum, then Newb = scum, and vice versa, correct?
As Roy said, the current theory regarding this is stupid. So I can understand why you had to hesitate and try to comprehend it. Did everyone else forget that Newb just tried to imply that B_Real and RR were arguing with guns and shit and he implied that they were working together violently? That isn't supporting RR. That was making them both look bad.

That would mean that RR = Not Scum, then Newb = Scum, and RR = scum, then Newb = Scum.

That would be a better theory, because it doesn't explaining setting both of them up, especially if they're on the same team.

Also, the reason Zilla has fallen off the radar for me is because Newb's info has been compromised and fake. I don't know what to make of Zilla anymore. I still want to say she's some form of scum but now I'm not sure if she's a Cult Leader. When it comes down to it, regardless of what Newb has done, when she went for a kill on someone else RR dropped his vote and immediately backed her with no explanation, no reason, on a vote trend that wasn't even close to being defined a bandwagon.

That has to mean something. I just don't know what. I do find it strange that she has yet to address this at all and that she's still alive. It does seem like she wants the heat to drop off the radar. And it might explain who tried to get me targeted last night. I was the only one who really laid it thick that Zilla needs to die.
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Unread 01-03-2008, 09:30 PM   #784
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To be fair, I think Bananarama came up with an argument, theory and defense for killing Zilla a little bit ago.

VERY VERY VERY UNOFFICIAL, COUNT BY SIGHT VOTE COUNT:

RussianReversal: 8
Newb: 3

Might have missed some votes, but that's about where we're at.

I can also get behind a Zilla lynch as much as I could our other two suggestions at this point. She was very, very much under suspiscion before getting passed over for Demetrius and promptly fogotten about today.
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Unread 01-03-2008, 09:57 PM   #785
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Also, the reason Zilla has fallen off the radar for me is because Newb's info has been compromised and fake. I don't know what to make of Zilla anymore. I still want to say she's some form of scum but now I'm not sure if she's a Cult Leader. When it comes down to it, regardless of what Newb has done, when she went for a kill on someone else RR dropped his vote and immediately backed her with no explanation, no reason, on a vote trend that wasn't even close to being defined a bandwagon.
Russian's behavior has definitely been weird, but why did he tell us to kill him? (Granted it was out of the mafia thread.) We've had plenty of people replaced for not being active. Fenny could have just replaced him. But he said we could kill him off. I know I would only say that if I knew it would bring major reprecussions for my enemies.

So, FoS: RR
but VOTE: Newb

Because they're both acting weird, and Newb's info has been compromised.
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Unread 01-03-2008, 10:42 PM   #786
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Russianreversal (8)
Roy
Aerozord
Newb
Tendronai
Ape Boy
B_real
Ole' Dude
Brock

Newb (5)
h4x
Zilla
wasoe
OctoberRaven
Jeneralissimo

Deadline is Monday at around 10:00 PM CST! 17 to lynch.
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Unread 01-03-2008, 11:05 PM   #787
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Well, while I look back and you're right, my behaviour does seem weird if you're not me, I said you could kill me because I was going on New Years vacation in real life, and I didn't realize the deadline would be so long. If I all of a sudden stopped posting (after posting like crazy) for a week and a half it would seem very suspicious. But now I'm back. Maine is fucking freezing in winter. But that's not what I'm posting for. I just think it's funny that I still don't have majority. I just got back on, so can someone tell me what Newb did to arouse your wrath? Last I checked it was pink bunny.

EDIT: Newb seems pretty suspicious, and as it would be counterproductive to vote for meselves, I think I'll go with
UNVOTE: Whoever (Demetrius, I think), and VOTE: Newb
EDIT2: Ha, looks like Newb didn't see my announcement post either!

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Unread 01-03-2008, 11:11 PM   #788
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Turns out Pink's a confirmed-by-mod townie.

Newb is the only viable play, and he's given information contradictory to my own.

That, and I think he's been picnicing! *DRAMATIC MUSIC*
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Unread 01-03-2008, 11:40 PM   #789
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No offense, but you should have posted it in this thread. Not everyone reads the other boards, so using this as your defense is pretty weak. Also, your lurking isn't what got people intrigued.

It was how social you were and would go about agreeing with everyone about just about anything without actually providing any content or your own thoughts on the issue.

And personally, I just want you dead or to explain why you changed your vote last time to what Zilla was voting when you were already voting someone else. You bandwagoned with her on something that wasn't even a proper bandwagon size for no reason.

Which isn't surprising; I've seen people do sillier crap, but you did it when you were already voting someone. Why did you do that, RR?
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Unread 01-04-2008, 12:14 AM   #790
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You know... with the exception of October Raven, the very people who are voting for me are the same guys I find most suspicious.

I find that amusing.

Also, since I now have more than four votes on me and I'm not going to have a chance to post until way later from now, roleclaim: vanilla mason, town aligned. I was partnered with Nikose, who was in fact the PO mason, town aligned, up until he died really fast after only investigating ODWTF, who came up as a vanilla townie.

Since my guesses and hunches are usually good enough to fake having an investigation role, I decided to do this again to protect ODWTF, and, seeing bad vibes coming off of RR and also B1, began spinning up some stuff to implicate them. I now see that B1 was simply a sleazy bastard in general and was not doing anything specifically wrong this game, but as time goes on I become more and more certain that something bad is up with RR.



On another note, I can't even FIND any post saying that RR was going to be away for a while. All I can find is his post saying that he's back.
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