Pokemon Umbral Discussion 20: Now With New Discussion Thread Smell!

[Bard The 5th LW]

Care to take a guess?

It would probably involve a Lickitounge, a Jynx, and forklift.

And I have no idea what Mattias's sidequest would ensue. The only info we have on him are a couple of informed abilities. He best become important soon.

[Dracorion]

I was hoping that Charlotte would've tried to teach Pierce a lesson by having sex with him. Y'know, angry painful sex. It would eventually devolve into a struggle for control, with the loser becoming the winner's bitch.

See, Pierce would have to win because he would never be Charlotte's bitch. And if he won he certainly wouldn't do anything except go back to the way things were.

So Charlotte would end up hating him and trying to get back at him for beating her and/or joining his harem. I'd be fine with the first one and happy with the second one.

But really, that's just me trying to enforce Pierce's whole sideplot of boning every single chick in the RP.

[Geminex]

By controlling the flow of information I can force you to do something whether you like it or not. Not to mention that if a person holds all the information and you learn he's manipulating you he's still in a rather strong position because quite simply, he's more than likely indisposable.

Ok, gimme an example. How, by controlling the flow of information, can you control my actions without using emotional or rational manipulation?

And I think that, when you discover that your information manager is acting in his own interests, you really won't be interested in letting him retain his position.

And Drac, get off my turf. Subjugating Charlotte is my thing. Or will be, anyway. It'd totally fit the entire "pack" mentality.

[Dracorion]

What, no comment on this:

Originally Posted by Dracorion

God help me, I'm going to go on ahead and propose something crazy here: Impact dual-classes to Ragnarok, then goes half-demon for the stat bonuses. Then he goes Demon, but doesn't get any stat boosts out of it, just mind control.

We can have Ragnarok replace full Demon as your dual-class, but you'd still get to keep mind control.

And I'm pretty sure my talking about boning all the chicks came before you started talking about getting Charlotte.

Besides, Pierce wouldn't use whatever control he'd have over her.

[Bard The 5th LW]

You do realize that Charlotte just likes dogs because of their brutality potential right?

I believe I may have said this before but I'll have Charlotte say it to make it clear.

Charlotte: I don't really see myself as being part of a team that much. When a mission starts, I mostly am like, 'cool, stuff to kill. Huh? Yeah I guess you guys can come to if you want. I guess.'

She may or may not follow orders after the fact.

I may or may not use that color of text in the future. I'm actually looking for a neat shade of red.

[Geminex]

God help me, I'm going to go on ahead and propose something crazy here: Impact dual-classes to Ragnarok, then goes half-demon for the stat bonuses. Then he goes Demon, but doesn't get any stat boosts out of it, just mind control.

We can have Ragnarok replace full Demon as your dual-class, but you'd still get to keep mind control.

I'm not entirely certain what further levels in demon would end up giving me, so I'm not sure whether that's such a bad idea. I'll wait for AB's response before insulting your mother.
Y'know, let's address that. Hey, AB, what would the effect of dual-classing to demon be? I would have assumed that it's just stats bonuses, but how would that benefit, say, Menarker's breeder?

Oh, and Dark Abyss still seems a little strong. It's still stronger than spore, anyway. Hell, even if you removed the whole "Nightmare" effect altogether, it'd be at spore strength, which is pretty good.

Maybe give it original strength (100% sleep, inflicts nightmare without fail), but Enmakki needs a turn to recharge after using it?

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Maybe give it original strength (100% sleep, inflicts nightmare without fail), but Enmakki needs a turn to recharge after using it?

Done. We're doing this with Dark Abyss. Approve it, AB.

P.S.: Bard, in my defense, I never said anything about Charlotte having pack mentality. I just talked about Pierce boning her. And Pierce wants nothing to do with her.

[DanteFalcon]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Ok, gimme an example. How, by controlling the flow of information, can you control my actions without using emotional or rational manipulation?

That changes your argument. You were merely making the note of emotional before. Rational and Informational Control are intrinsically linked though not the same. I instead make rational arguments but can change the rationale easily because I'm the one who knows what's going on and thus can change and bend the truth at will.

Also if the person holds all the information then removing him from his particular position is both difficult and hazardous. Should you decide to do so you have to be damn sure he dies. Why? Because he'll more than likely create an opposing side afterwards. Not to mention but the person who knew what was going on just left your team taking a large bit of insight with him.

[Bard The 5th LW]

P.S.: Bard, in my defense, I never said anything about Charlotte having pack mentality. I just talked about Pierce boning her. And Pierce wants nothing to do with her.

It was actually directed towards Geminex.

Impact: I plan on running this like a wolf pack, with the alpha female by my side!

Charlotte: Who? Pierce?

[Dracorion]

Maybe he means Renny.