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Unread 06-15-2010, 01:03 AM   #71
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The plot thickens. Ten bucks it's an alien conspiracy. Only by "bucks" I mean "arbitrary worthless unit". And by "ten" I mean "not a single".

But back to relevance, are you guys ok with the plan I outlined? For reference, that's this one:

Harliette: Aquashot, fuck yeah. STAB plus weather bonus. Nidoqueen to use focused earthquake, Illumise to use helping hand on its master
Charlotte: Pike to use Thunder, Hammond with Stone edge
Pierce: Aria using Thunder, Kingdra using water attack on Harliette
Rachel: Rage Rocket on Wilhelmina, Rage Rocket on self
Renny: Swampert use water move on Matt. Magnezone to copy water move on Matt.
Moon: Deploy Fathom and Starmie, both using water moves on Impact
Wilhelmina: Maid to Mistress, two Dark Shots
Matthias: Pokeshift to Porygon Z, use Hyper Beam (paradigm-shifted pokebrids don't need to recharge, do they? If they do, thunder.)
Lexhur: Save up his rage.
Impact: HV rifle. Hopefully gets water and fire armor next turn. Hint hint.
Trainer attacks to hit wildfire as well, if they can.
If a water move to wash off oil is used on an already-clean ally, have that water move redirect to Impact. If Impact's clean, wash off Matt, if Matt's clean, wash off Harliette.
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Unread 06-15-2010, 01:32 AM   #72
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Dante isn't going to be able to directly control bosses. And you know it. And I don't wanna hear any shit about it, neither.

And on the off-chance that I would consider allowing it, I'll have him trapped inside so that he ends up being forced to spend a good deal of time as that unit for the sake of comedy until they can hack him back out.

Not Ceru, though. She's not cool enough (no pun intended). Maybe Diamond Gunscissor? Definitely not mecha like Azure Blitz and Ginnungagap.

There will be a good variety of mechanical things for Matthias to hack into. Here, let's do this, actually...

Porygon Z Synchronization Technique: ZOMGH4X!!1! - Transforms into digital information and hacks into the target mechanical unit for 3 turns. Able to use their moves like he has always been that unit. This extends to Engineer devices (exempting Evoliths), mechanical Pokemon like an enemy Magnezone, and various vehicles and powered armors. Against mechanical bosses, he can disable certain moves (like Cerulean Wildfire's plasmathrowers) but otherwise cannot control them directly.

EDIT 1: Let's come to a decision on the Pokebrid endurance subject. There's two ways we can go. I'll take away that whole Pokebrids need to rest nonsense, but they have to deal with crap like cooldowns and warmups for their moves unless they are Paradigm Shifted. Otherwise, we keep the endurance aspect, but allow them to ignore warmups and cooldowns. Your call.

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Unread 06-15-2010, 02:20 AM   #73
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Gem, I keep saying that I'm keeping Mollesk out. If Mollesk ends up knocked out, fine, that's just one more turn he ended up tanking hits for. If not, then it'll have an offensive purpose. But it'll be near impossible to get the buffs back on him with the battle heating up if he loses them upon switching. Swampert can use Surf on Matt and someone else beside him directly (since it hits two targets) while also washing off Mollesk as a backlash effect. At best, 3 people will be washed off. AB said water moves toward allies with oil won't inflict damage, so Mollesk won't be damaged by Surf which would normally be "super-effective".

And it doesn't help that you opted to send Magnezone who is naturally weak to fire.

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Unread 06-15-2010, 02:27 AM   #74
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Man, with all this in-fighting, I should've made Mission 3 the Arena mission.
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Unread 06-15-2010, 05:16 AM   #75
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I doubt that magnezone would survive regardless of weakness. And hey, we can revive him. You could use the rage. But see, we need the water moves. You can provide water moves. You will.

Mollesk might work. But I, honestly, think it unlikely. The only thing it has going for it is that the fire-wall will make it hard to attack it in melee, but we don't know how long that wall will last. So maybe the buffs will be wasted. But I don't think they're worth much in the first place.
If we didn't need water moves so urgently, I'd consider it. But as it is? We need those water moves.


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'll take away that whole Pokebrids need to rest nonsense, but they have to deal with crap like cooldowns and warmups for their moves unless they are Paradigm Shifted.
This. This so hard.

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Unread 06-15-2010, 05:23 AM   #76
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The fact is that there isn't really a good choice or a bad choice here. This is due to the fact that Cerulean Wildfire has only shown a part of what she can do so far.

I will say, though, that water moves will be damn crucial. And when I say this, I mean for reasons other than cleaning oil away. When you guys've decided what the Watchmen will do, you'll see the villainous genius behind Cerulean Wildfire, a bitch who turns both fire and water into a dangerous double whammy.
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Unread 06-15-2010, 05:33 AM   #77
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Oh good lord. There has to be some way for us to determine an enemy's abilities beforehand. I mean, it's only realistic that we'd have some way of determining the enemy's powers, if only by visual inspection. Can there be a character that does that? Hack into databases, analyse DNA, find ways for us to know what attacks our enemies have before they actually start, y'know, using them?

Because, considering that the entirety of this combat system is based on "good or bad" choices, a situation where there aren't any good or bad choices really defeats the purpose of planning or coordinating. Against the Ruin types we knew what we were up against, and what they could do. Against Phantomere and Lexhur? Less so, but we still knew what was what. But we've been in the dark a lot of this mission.
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Unread 06-15-2010, 06:17 AM   #78
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Even if the info you give us is "there's a rocket launcher coming out of her crotch! It fires rockets that contain FLESH EATING ANTS THAT EAT THROUGH... UH... FLESH!" or something.

But no, really. Minor details about at least some of the stuff Wildfire can throw at us, even stuff she hasn't used yet, would be great. Even if it's only a cryptic hint.
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Unread 06-15-2010, 09:44 AM   #79
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'll take away that whole Pokebrids need to rest nonsense, but they have to deal with crap like cooldowns and warmups for their moves unless they are Paradigm Shifted.
I'm fine with this. Everyone else?
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Yes yes, fine. I'm okay with it.
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