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Unread 09-10-2010, 10:09 AM   #71
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I think Menarker's confused about the effect the Psytellites inside Impact and Matthias have.

Yes, they cause Exhaustion while they're inside, so Impact and Matthias may forefeit turns sometimes. BUT, there has been no indication that they've been reduced to vegetables. Or any indication that the Psytellites are having any effect other than causing Exhaustion.
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Unread 09-10-2010, 08:54 PM   #72
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And I came up with the overall plan in the first place. And most of the previous ones too. It's easy to claim you're better at making plans when you merely do a patch-up job rather than create one from scratch.
Oh come on. I referenced your plan maybe twice when I made mine. Not to mention that our plans have completely different priorities, and go about achieving those priorities in a completely different way. Mine is nothing like yours. And like I said, you can take credit for the bits that you came up with. But the only bit that was really your idea was the whole "Sceptile" thing.
And I take it by "most of the previous ones" you mean "the ones that Pierce took credit for"? Cause I can't remember you helping me with the ones I created. And if that's the case, then it seems like any beef you have should be with Drac, not me.

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Well, you better somehow justify it now, because unless your mind is "magically immune" to Moera's physic powers (which is supposably stronger than the PSYCHIC RUIN GENERAL) which makes up the Psytellites that's possessing you, then you're not in any shape to utter anything coherent from those lips.
Let me put is this way. I'm pretty sure I can justify it. I don't need to do it well, after all. Unless AB (and only AB) starts telling me "You can't give orders", I'm going to be giving orders.
And if it turns out I can't, well... Then Charlotte's about to get a flash of strategic brilliance.

Look, I'm not a total dick. If you had asked me if we could share credit, I would have gladly considered it; you've done some work on this, after all, I aknowledge that much. But telling me what I can and can't do with my character, and stating your intention to take credit for the plan I spent half an hour formulating? Nooooo. That one doesn't fly, has never flown, and, as long as Impact is leader, won't fly.
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Unread 09-11-2010, 12:36 AM   #73
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I think Menarker's confused about the effect the Psytellites inside Impact and Matthias have.

Yes, they cause Exhaustion while they're inside, so Impact and Matthias may forefeit turns sometimes. BUT, there has been no indication that they've been reduced to vegetables. Or any indication that the Psytellites are having any effect other than causing Exhaustion.
If all the Psytellites did was cause Exhaustion, then they would just do that. It's not like every foe that is capable of causing the Exhaustion status has to possess us in order to do so. AB wouldn't have to or need to write all that possession stuff if it didn't have an additional purpose.

You know, it would just be easier to ask AB.

AB, are Impact and Matthias able to act or think of their own accord while being possessed by a psytellite (barring bits of exhaustion) or are they more or less dominated/mind controlled and unable to contribute (or give orders) until they get freed from the Psytellite's possession?

If they are able to act under their own free will, is there any other features of the possession other than the Exhaustion side effect and the fact that only Psychic attacks will hurt them now?

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Unread 09-11-2010, 01:17 AM   #74
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Look, Menarker, you may as well stop arguing. Unless AB explicitely says "No, Impact doesn't get to give orders", I'm giving orders. Right now, what I'm forseeing is this:

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Impact notices Matt and himself getting posessed, panics ("Oh my got get it out get it OUT")
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Rachel1: Rage rocket Moon
Moon construct: special amp
Irene1: Unownaut, Psycho boost on lite possessing Impact (lite D) (STAB, Amped)
Renny1: Shaymin Psychic on lite possessing Impact (lite D) (Amped)
Harliette1: Wormadam Psychic on lite possessing Impact (lite D). If that one's gone, then psychic on lite possessing Matt (Lite B) (Amped)

Post 2: After the onslaught of psychic, Impact is fine and back with a vengeance.
Orders given: Everything else.

Unless AB says I can't do that (and I see no reason why he should deprive me of the ability to give orders), I'm doing it.

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And your ongoing attempts outmaneuver really aren't doing anything in your favor. Like, at all. Seriously, let's just stop discussing this.

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Unread 09-11-2010, 11:52 AM   #75
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Okay, fine, so the Psytellites should probably have some effect.

HOWEVER, you just assume that Impact and Matthias should be reduced to vegetables?

That's retarded, since we know that they're still capable of taking action. Not munch point to inflicting them with Exhaustion in the first place if they're just going to be drooling over themselves, y'dig?

I mean really, if you were going to come up with something to justify Renny giving orders this turn, ANYTHING would've made more sense than that.

Also, Menarker, I thought you weren't going to actively fight for leadership?
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Unread 09-11-2010, 05:54 PM   #76
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Okay, fine, so the Psytellites should probably have some effect.

HOWEVER, you just assume that Impact and Matthias should be reduced to vegetables?

That's retarded, since we know that they're still capable of taking action.
I assumed that possession pretty much meant they were unable to take action in a manner similar to how Togekiss was under control.

Some of the more genre savvy NPCs might be suspicious of any orders issued by those possessed by the opposing side.

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Also, Menarker, I thought you weren't going to actively fight for leadership?
Not for leadership!

Just for issuing orders, since if my statement was true (which as you noticed is pending response from AB) and Impact is not able to give orders, and Pierce is too distracted to do so, then Renny is the only other person authorized by Rayleen in the mission to give orders/advice. (Impact being the real leader and Pierce being the other person who shares the same role as Renny.)


How about Renny issues the orders up to a certain point, (From the start until the one last one dealing with freeing Impact from possession) and Impact deals with the rest? That would deal with all the "plausibilty issues" at any rate.

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Unread 09-11-2010, 07:10 PM   #77
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I assumed that possession pretty much meant they were unable to take action in a manner similar to how Togekiss was under control.
Then what's the point of them being inflicted with Exhaustion?

It would've been simpler to say they're suffering from Null Turn until the Psytellites were destroyed, if that's what they do. And if they were Dominated like Togekiss, AB would've said they'd been Dominated.

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Some of the more genre savvy NPCs might be suspicious of any orders issued by those possessed by the opposing side.
That's another matter entirely.

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Not for leadership!
Right.

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How about Renny issues the orders up to a certain point, (From the start until the one last one dealing with freeing Impact from possession) and Impact deals with the rest? That would deal with all the "plausibilty issues" at any rate.
Hey, I'm not the one you have to pitch it to.
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Unread 09-11-2010, 07:21 PM   #78
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I initially assumed the exhaustion was an additional annoying status that would stick around even if the psytellite was removed. Hence why Pick Me Up was in my plan before. Figured that the entire ordeal would make you tired.

And we won't know what AB meant or how it happened (aside from fatigue/drunkeness) until he responds anyhow. A lot of confusing stuff was in that last post. :3
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Unread 09-11-2010, 07:28 PM   #79
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Screw it, we're done.
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Unread 09-11-2010, 08:39 PM   #80
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AB, are Impact and Matthias able to act or think of their own accord while being possessed by a psytellite (barring bits of exhaustion) or are they more or less dominated/mind controlled and unable to contribute (or give orders) until they get freed from the Psytellite's possession?
Yes, they are able to continue acting and giving orders. Psytellites don't possess enough psychic oomph to dominate anyone.

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If they are able to act under their own free will, is there any other features of the possession other than the Exhaustion side effect and the fact that only Psychic attacks will hurt them now?
No, not really. Unless you want the Psytellites to make them breakdance and spout nonsense.

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