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Unread 09-26-2011, 09:16 PM   #71
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I've been busy with some papers I've procrastinated on as well as some ceremonies and shit. Thursday will be when the torment ends.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 02:17 AM   #72
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'Kay, so here's what I'm doing:

Lathiron side of the battle will be done tonight. Even more than halfway finished before I got started on it again, it still devoured three hours already before I took a break. Next post this weekend will be the Krunder side. I plan to do it this way to sort of mentally trick myself into thinking there isn't so much work. I'm stupid like that.

EDIT: Lathiron side of the post is done. Bitch at me with all your problems and queries. Will have new Umbralguide up here shortly. Will work solely on the Krunder side even if the Lathiron side has their next battle predictions. Gawd, you wouldn't believe how long that took. Krunder side should be done this weekend. I will no longer be lazy with this stuff so don't rush me or I'll...I'll...get all huffy.

EDIT 2: Final Umbral Guide is up. This details Fog of War and a few other things. Post is messed up a bit so I deleted it, will fix it quickly, and post it right back up.

EDIT 3: Post is fixed of at least the major conflict with it. I'm sure you observant fuckers will find other things so let me point out a couple things:

- In order to reduce Fog of War with a flying type move that isn't Defog, you have to actually target the Fog of War. If you target the Fog of War like this, you cannot hit Lathiron as well.
- Since Pierce now has a rank in Slayer, he is a part of the active formation.
- Remember that I took out Vengeful Rage? Well, feeling bad about that, I put in a different version. Basically, you get double the Rage normally recieved by a hit if that hit defeats you. Therefore, Charlotte got 10 Rage each for when Spitz and Venusaur were taken down.

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Unread 09-30-2011, 07:52 AM   #73
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So, because Pierce is a Slayer he gets to fight with two Pokemon and himself out like a Shock Trooper?

Does that mean Renny's going to have to take part in the active formation as well, since he's a Pokebrid?

And shouldn't the Aqkuaw be taking damage from the rain, since it's Rock type?

Finally, you forgot to record the damage to Sophia and Kingdra in the turn 3 order phase. And Thundurus shows up twice there, and Venusaur doesn't at all.

I do approve of the enemies all hating the crap out of Charlotte's Pokemon.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 03:31 PM   #74
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You don't fight like a Shock Trooper, but you still show up on the battlefield.

Yes, Renny will show up in his formation as well.

Aqkuaw won't take damage from his own side. That's just silly.

I will fix the damage. Sorry about that.

Will fix the Thundurus thing, but Venusaur and Spitz were defeated before they could attack in the Order Phase.

I just wanna be honest and say that I wasn't even thinking about the fact that those two Pokemon did incredible damage (especially Spitz) or that they were slow enough for the enemy to get at. I was mostly so pressed for time that I really wasn't thinking about targets this turn, just "focus on Pokemon". Oh well. Wouldn't be hard for her to recover.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 03:38 PM   #75
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Still, fuck Charlotte.

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Unread 09-30-2011, 03:46 PM   #76
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- Since Pierce now has a rank in Slayer, he is a part of the active formation.
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So, because Pierce is a Slayer he gets to fight with two Pokemon and himself out like a Shock Trooper?

Does that mean Renny's going to have to take part in the active formation as well, since he's a Pokebrid?
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You don't fight like a Shock Trooper, but you still show up on the battlefield.

Yes, Renny will show up in his formation as well.

Errrr, can you explain this better or why this is needed?

For one thing, this might interefere with our formations especially AOE moves and buffing moves because of these new "additions". Especially when considering that normal trainers aren't considered part of the formation and yet MYSTERIOUSLY Pierce and Renny (and every other slayer or pokebrid trainer) are considered part of the formation (and risk being attacked) despite behaving exactly like a trainer in any function and having no benefit from being put in the formation in the first place.

It doesn't seem to serve any purpose but make things harder for no real reason and without any notice before we made our formations. It also doesn't seem to make it easier to keep track of data either.

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Unread 09-30-2011, 06:05 PM   #77
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Why this is, or rather, was considered to be needed is due to balancing issues in which the Pokebrid or Slayer can effectively render themselves invincible so long as they have two Pokemon to cockblock their enemies.

Why plain ol' Trainers and Snaggers aren't in the formation themselves is that they don't have vital statistics.

I believe Gem argued this point before, but don't quote me on that as I dunno how old that arguement was or who argued it in the first place.

I will go ahead and fix this right now.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 06:43 PM   #78
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The problem then wasn't with that but with the issue with rogue pokemon. Slayers or pokebrid trainers wouldn't be targetted because if they did, the pokemon would go rogue for some cheap damage.

But now that rogue pokemon rules have been revised to more or less dramatic rules, it shouldn't be an issue since the slayer/pokebrid can just partake in battle as normal trainers or as a pair of themselves and one of their pokemon. If the trainer gets knocked out, they could still order their pokemon, but are otherwise unable to fend for themselves.

But yes, thanks for going ahead to fix it.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 08:51 PM   #79
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No problemo, Creepy.
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reading post now. Legs hurt. Probably wont post till tomorrow
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