Hatland Mafia

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Damn you guys, you started this thread at 4 in the morning! 70 posts in that time too. Anyway, I'm here now, and just as confused as last time. Looks like we're off to a good start.

And well, seeing as it's the issue of the hour, I really dunno what to think of Snakes strategies. He could just be as good as he thinks he is at mafia, and playing several levels above my head, or he could just be actually insane. The difference in his posting style so far could just be part of his newest mental strategy or could be indicative of a new alignment. However he HAS generated controversy and all round discussion anyway which is totally in character for him.

Like SMB says though, if he's scum we'll find out soon enough because he has to eventually slip up if he's not town.

Originally Posted by Gregness

If we can't shake loose a lead, I say we vote off inactives if we have any. The only valid argument raised against that strategy last game was that it's better to focus on finding a target. I mean, I'd hope that's sort of obvious, but day 1 being what it is it seems like a decent enough place to start.

I'm officially much more comfortable in later days.

There was a lot of discussion and arguments about this last time and it resulted in a pretty definate divide in opinions. On the one hand, with nothing else to go on, lynching inactives is safer, and so might be good for D1, however we still don't know who is really inactive yet. On the other hand, lynching inactives doesn't REALLY help us either, though it may have helped us more last game because a lot of the scum were being pretty inactive, or at least low key enough to count as inactive.

We really need to wait and see first before going down that road.

Not gona vote anyone yet becuase you're all just as suspicious as always and it seems I missed the joke voting period.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

I'm going on direct evidence here.

This is a land of Hats.



Smarty is a hat hater.
This means that Smarty is racist and/or genocidal towards the Hatland.
Smarty is essentially anti-town.

##Vote: Smarty

I direct you to the signup thread which will reveal Gem as the true hat hater

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Yeah SMBs hate is generally directed at anything and everything and isn't neccesarily hat-specific.

[Geminex]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

I direct you to the signup thread which will reveal Gem as the true hat hater

You made me say those things. With your cult mind control.
You also made me say that time cop is a great movie. How could you.

[Ravashak]

Originally Posted by Aldurin

Snake, unvote the fuck off of him. IC could very well be the jester, get some investigations on his shit before we start with that.

Originally Posted by Aldurin

Unvote: Bard

Vote: Solid Snake

I have no idea where you're going with these incoherent shenanigans and I honestly feel like it didn't actually do that good in the last game (take note of how we piledrived the scum after you were gone.) If anything you're probably going to confuse more townies than help them if that's what you're trying.

These two quotes make me highly suspicious of Aldurin. First you're trying to get Snake to stop voting someone and get the police officer to do your bidding, on what I assume at this point is an investigation of an innocent.

Then you change your vote to Snake because he produces too much text / conversation so people'd have a harder time staying silent/hidden?

Then your first post, the cry out which pretty much said "boohoo I'm town!" just doesn't seem believable to me.

Vote: Aldurin

[Inbred Chocobo]

Unvote: No Lynch

Vote: Karesh

Karesh's Day 1 antics and posting behavior feels more like a confuse everyone so no one wants to prod him actions than anything else. Of all the people making joke posts, his actions have a tinge of subtle-ness of hiding other motives. That, and he was going on about his role, which I honestly believe is complete carp.

Snake is making himself out to be the big boy, but since I wasn't in the MLP mafia game and am not going to bother reading it, I am unaware if this behavior is normal. Then again, I would also like to set the example of me acusing Fenris of scum in the first mafia game and him using examples where I did the exact same accusation and him being town, when he turned out scum. So I am extremely reluctant to take items from past games and use them as a frame this game.

Bard has the exact same chances of being scum twice then town as he does being scum three times. Any fabrication of factors made in your head mean nothing, he has just as equal chance as anyone.

Aldurin seems.... assertive as well to his accusations. Interesting to see there.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

You're.... really gonna have to explain this one to me cause I can't see any difference between how I'm behaving this day one and how I behave almost every day one.

Unless that's just a joke vote.

[Inbred Chocobo]

First, you speak of plural day ones. You weren't in the first mafia game I was in, and I wasn't in your other game, and looking over it, you were much more reactive in your day one shenanigans than this one.

Second, comparing old Mafia threads to this one, even for behavioral purposes can lead to a trap, as you would be associating a past role that would have no effect for the current game, but you would garner it anyway since well hey I'm the same guy and I'm posting similiar. I fell for that trap on my first game, so I am rather wary as people start to refer to past games again.

Though in your defense, it could be that the first day you just happened to find a mostly empty thread and started posting, or you wish to post a bit more and make yourself known. Still, I find its a bit uneasy so I'm staking a claim and seeing where it leads.

[Aldurin]

Originally Posted by Ravashak

These two quotes make me highly suspicious of Aldurin. First you're trying to get Snake to stop voting someone and get the police officer to do your bidding, on what I assume at this point is an investigation of an innocent.

Then you change your vote to Snake because he produces too much text / conversation so people'd have a harder time staying silent/hidden?

Then your first post, the cry out which pretty much said "boohoo I'm town!" just doesn't seem believable to me.

Vote: Aldurin

I'm just somewhat on edge right now, given the reactions to my mafia track record and some real life things going on I've lost my tolerance for Snake.

Like I literally can see no progress from him once he goes into walls of text mode because he then starts strangling himself and anyone near him with overthought logic while others are too intimidated to try to keep up.

For voting him, I was holding Bard as a semi-joke vote until I could find a more reasonable target, and Snake is looking like a problem.

The main thing that nags me is that his hyperactive textwalls seem different from last game. Like I seriously would think that Snake would try to properly establish himself as town if he was town, but the post where he points everybody out just has sarcasm in his place, where I honestly would have expected a proper defense or explanation.

I do get the feeling that he may be scum trying to recreate his "I'm town SO HARD" thing he did last game.

[BahamutFlare]

Who all hasn't posted yet or posted very little? I'd like to hear more from them.

Also, I doubt Aldurin is scum. He seems to be someone that may not be able to handle correct decisions and make good deductions, but I don't think (good) lying is something he is capable of.

What good could scum get by having him be so assertive against one person? If people bandwagon against Snake, it looks bad for Aldurin if Snake turns Town. If Snake was mafia, I don't think the mafia would try to get two of their members in an argument. I'm probably missing more sides in the argument, but at the moment, this is how I see Aldurin, and that would be as town.