My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia - Page 87

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 10-05-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aldurin

Please don't remind me that my only two mafia games are now complete failures on my part.

Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.

The only bonus's we have now are that you're more or less confirmed towny. A dumb towny but hey whatever.
With no cult about that's a good thing. Permanent verification is a VERY good thing. When it comes down to the wire having this list of people that are confirmed might be very important.

At the same time there's always the possibility that they'll kill you off, but as you've said you don't have a power anymore and the power you do have wouldn't really work as anything but a time saver anyway.

Sifright · 10-05-2011, 07:36 PM

Also your running a double standard on logic Claiming that I'm voting to kill a townie to prove the other guy is a townie when your doing exactly the same thing with me and karesh. The difference being that Nikose has been SHOWN to be lieing explicitly and intentionaly.

Sifright · 10-05-2011, 07:42 PM

FOS:Rpgdemon Double standard on how he is applying his toughts.
FOS:Nikose Lying his ass off in previous posts *voted for*

Edit: also enough with shitting on Aldurin, the point has been made either he will learn from it or not. The important thing is that we actually try to push people on their mistakes instead of going HERP DERP YOU X PERSON I FIND YOU NEBULOUSLY SUSPICIOUS FOR YOU USING REASONING WHICH I WILL NOW APPLY TO YOU WITH MY OWN VOTE CHOICE

rpgdemon · 10-05-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifright

Also your running a double standard on logic Claiming that I'm voting to kill a townie to prove the other guy is a townie when your doing exactly the same thing with me and karesh. The difference being that Nikose has been SHOWN to be lieing explicitly and intentionaly.

I don't have a problem with killing someone to prove someone else. In fact, I suggested we do it on you.

I have a problem with you going, "Nooo, bad idea", the first time, and now going, "Yooo, good idea!", the second time.

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My Plan was predicated on the PO not revealing him self. IF i was telling the truth.

Exactly, which is how you tied your life to the PO. Like, I don't know if you are bad at logic, but the way you set it up before only benefited the scum. It meant that if the scum would get called out, then the town would have to lose their PO.

If you had said, "PO can save me if he wants, but otherwise assume my guilt", then yes, it might have flagged a false positive on you, but we'd have a known townie in Karesh, and a safe PO. And, if the PO was killed at night, it wouldn't flag you as a false townie, which is much more dangerous than someone being flagged as a false mafiate.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-05-2011, 07:51 PM

Well Sif was pretty much willing to kill himself earlier, but he now has a problem with it? It does strike me as someone being afraid to go with it when push comes to shove. Maybe the earlier suicide claim was a bluff? Its admittedly an unlikely bluff, but the recent dissent is sorta weird.

rpgdemon · 10-05-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifright

Edit: also enough with shitting on Aldurin, the point has been made either he will learn from it or not. The important thing is that we actually try to push people on their mistakes instead of going HERP DERP YOU X PERSON I FIND YOU NEBULOUSLY SUSPICIOUS FOR YOU USING REASONING WHICH I WILL NOW APPLY TO YOU WITH MY OWN VOTE CHOICE

PSST. If I am applying a double standard and being suspicious for it (Which I'm not! It's not supporting killing a townie to prove another one's innocence that I object to, it's that you flipped on that! Which is a big difference!), Then you are too, for being against the old plan, and for this new one. And then you're DOUBLE double standarding, by saying that a double standard only counts in one direction.

ALSO, YOU ARE DOING THE THING THAT YOU SAID NOT TO DO, THAT MEANS.

Sifright · 10-05-2011, 07:52 PM

Also I DONT WANT TO KILL NIKOSE TO PROVE THAT HE AND IHMN IS TOWNIE. I WANT TO LYNCH HIM BECAUSE HE LIED ABOUT SHIT TO DO WITH SNAKE REPEATEDLY, Like fuck how are you turning this into a thing about me trying to prove he is town.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 10-05-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Exactly, which is how you tied your life to the PO. Like, I don't know if you are bad at logic, but the way you set it up before only benefited the scum. It meant that if the scum would get called out, then the town would have to lose their PO.

If you had said, "PO can save me if he wants, but otherwise assume my guilt", then yes, it might have flagged a false positive on you, but we'd have a known townie in Karesh, and a safe PO. And, if the PO was killed at night, it wouldn't flag you as a false townie, which is much more dangerous than someone being flagged as a false mafiate.

I don't think he ever suggested that the PO investigate him and then immediately dump the results for all to see. Just that the PO could add him to the list of people to get results on and then, at a point where the PO was going to do so anyway he could post his findings and move from there.

That's pretty much the whole fucking point of the PO. He can't sit idle forever, nor can he abandon his life to the first mafiate he finds. A list must be composed through his searches and the validity of that list then tested. If he moves too quickly, the results are likely to be too little to help. Too late and the chances for his death or the scum victory being inevitable become present.

rpgdemon · 10-05-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

Well Sif was pretty much willing to kill himself earlier, but he now has a problem with it? It does strike me as someone being afraid to go with it when push comes to shove. Maybe the earlier suicide claim was a bluff? Its admittedly an unlikely bluff, but the recent dissent is sorta weird.

He's flip flopped on it a few times.

He was adamant against the plan that could only flag a false mafiate, and demanded that we do the plan that could flag him as a false town, if the PO didn't investigate him, or died, or didn't come out immediately and say that he was scum.

Then he went, "But seriously, now you can kill me guys! It'll prove I'm innocent!".

And now he's doing... This? Whatever this is. I've honestly got no idea, and being involved in the whole This, I can't really give an opinion on it that's worth anything. I mean, I think he's being silly and suspicious.

Sifright · 10-05-2011, 07:55 PM

We are now in day 3 if I had been lynched day fucking one it would have been one thing but Lynching me on day 3 will fuck the town over hugely.

You aren't seeing that the day the thing happens makes a huge deal. If i'm lynched now mafia kill another one in the night and so to does the sk presumably and the Vig. We go from 15 to 11, That means the mafia can win THE NEXT GAME DAY

10-05-2011, 07:36 PM	#862
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	Also your running a double standard on logic Claiming that I'm voting to kill a townie to prove the other guy is a townie when your doing exactly the same thing with me and karesh. The difference being that Nikose has been SHOWN to be lieing explicitly and intentionaly.

10-05-2011, 07:42 PM	#863
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	FOS:Rpgdemon Double standard on how he is applying his toughts. FOS:Nikose Lying his ass off in previous posts voted for Edit: also enough with shitting on Aldurin, the point has been made either he will learn from it or not. The important thing is that we actually try to push people on their mistakes instead of going HERP DERP YOU X PERSON I FIND YOU NEBULOUSLY SUSPICIOUS FOR YOU USING REASONING WHICH I WILL NOW APPLY TO YOU WITH MY OWN VOTE CHOICE

10-05-2011, 07:51 PM	#865
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Well Sif was pretty much willing to kill himself earlier, but he now has a problem with it? It does strike me as someone being afraid to go with it when push comes to shove. Maybe the earlier suicide claim was a bluff? Its admittedly an unlikely bluff, but the recent dissent is sorta weird.

10-05-2011, 07:52 PM	#867
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	Also I DONT WANT TO KILL NIKOSE TO PROVE THAT HE AND IHMN IS TOWNIE. I WANT TO LYNCH HIM BECAUSE HE LIED ABOUT SHIT TO DO WITH SNAKE REPEATEDLY, Like fuck how are you turning this into a thing about me trying to prove he is town.

10-05-2011, 07:55 PM	#870
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	We are now in day 3 if I had been lynched day fucking one it would have been one thing but Lynching me on day 3 will fuck the town over hugely. You aren't seeing that the day the thing happens makes a huge deal. If i'm lynched now mafia kill another one in the night and so to does the sk presumably and the Vig. We go from 15 to 11, That means the mafia can win THE NEXT GAME DAY