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Unread 05-08-2010, 10:25 PM   #881
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Hope V had at least 11d6 hit points left before going through the barrier.
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Unread 05-09-2010, 07:06 AM   #882
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Half dragon half ogre? Jeez! Talk about str bonuses...

Also if anyone's interested the Empress probably has the Ravening template for dragons. Essentially it gives +4 str and -4 chr, +2 dc to their breath weapon. They can use their breath weapon once a round for three rounds then have to wait 1d4 to use it again. Anyone who attacks the ravening dragon with a non reach weapon takes 1d6+ 1 per caster level of their breath weapon damage, and the dragon has to eat its own size category in food each day. So one huge creature, or 4 large creatures, or 16 medium creatures, so on. It's always hungry, too.
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Unread 05-09-2010, 09:12 AM   #883
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I think she took her meals to go x16 too many times...
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Unread 05-09-2010, 11:59 PM   #884
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The albino drake-priest is too patient with the Blood Empress, too earnest in his devotion to her. I do think she's a simpleton, as presented, but I think there's something more to her than meets the eye (and, as already pointed out, that's a lot!).
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Half dragon half ogre? Jeez! Talk about str bonuses...

Also if anyone's interested the Empress probably has the Ravening template for dragons. Essentially it gives +4 str and -4 chr, +2 dc to their breath weapon. They can use their breath weapon once a round for three rounds then have to wait 1d4 to use it again. Anyone who attacks the ravening dragon with a non reach weapon takes 1d6+ 1 per caster level of their breath weapon damage, and the dragon has to eat its own size category in food each day. So one huge creature, or 4 large creatures, or 16 medium creatures, so on. It's always hungry, too.
Yeah, a +18 to strength is pretty good. That +5 (-ish?) level adjustment kinda sucks, though. Even a +4 to +6 (I've forgotten my ogre stats, the half-dragons get a +2) to CON will be hard-pressed to save him in appropriate-level fights. Thus the very large "no" on the "are we getting paid enough" chart. Hopefully (for his sake) his GM is gracious and allows him to pay it off (though at best it'd still take him to level 12 to start). Still, it's a fairly optimal build - the dragon even makes up for an ogres typical lack of intelligence - or at least mitigates it somewhat.

That said: de donde es la "ravenous template"? Por favor!"From where did you find the ravenous template? Please!"

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Why 11d6? Also, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he didn't have. ... Although on further consideration, it might not be so bad as I was thinking - he seemed unable to move due to the strength-drain, not by being at 0 hp, so, yeah, I dunno, but that's still an awful lot of damage for a wizard to face.
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Unread 05-10-2010, 07:21 AM   #885
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Yeah, a +18 to strength is pretty good. That +5 (-ish?) level adjustment kinda sucks, though. Even a +4 to +6 (I've forgotten my ogre stats, the half-dragons get a +2) to CON will be hard-pressed to save him in appropriate-level fights. Thus the very large "no" on the "are we getting paid enough" chart. Hopefully (for his sake) his GM is gracious and allows him to pay it off (though at best it'd still take him to level 12 to start). Still, it's a fairly optimal build - the dragon even makes up for an ogres typical lack of intelligence - or at least mitigates it somewhat.

That said: de donde es la "ravenous template"? Por favor!"From where did you find the ravenous template? Please!"

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Why 11d6? Also, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he didn't have. ... Although on further consideration, it might not be so bad as I was thinking - he seemed unable to move due to the strength-drain, not by being at 0 hp, so, yeah, I dunno, but that's still an awful lot of damage for a wizard to face.
http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/rules...-Templates.pdf

And you need to be level 11 minimum to cast Heal, since he didn't do any scroll garbage.
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Unread 05-10-2010, 10:29 AM   #886
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Half dragon half ogre? Jeez! Talk about str bonuses...
You should try a half red-dragon, vampiric, humanoid sea troll. I unleashed one of those once, but mostly because it's immune to pretty much everything that's not fire or acid (and it has reasonable fire and spell resistance).
Our halfling pacifist cleric with 8 str managed to outgrapple it, however, so maybe it's strength was less than I remember.
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You should try a half red-dragon, vampiric, humanoid sea troll. I unleashed one of those once, but mostly because it's immune to pretty much everything that's not fire or acid (and it has reasonable fire and spell resistance).
Our halfling pacifist cleric with 8 str managed to outgrapple it, however, so maybe it's strength was less than I remember.
You could just knock it to 0 via any means and do a custom coup de grace with a Melf's Acid Arrow, or a weapon with acid damage/fire damage, etc.
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Reading all this warms my heart with the thought of how much I love 4E and how when I want a monster that's resistant to fire, cold and necrotic I can just write down "Resist fire 10, cold 10, necrotic 10" instead of having to juggle templates and LAs and all.

On the other hand there's a distinct advantage to a system where you can describe someone as a half-dragon half-ogre or a vampiric troll and everyone knows at least roughly what they're in for.
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You could just knock it to 0 via any means and do a custom coup de grace with a Melf's Acid Arrow, or a weapon with acid damage/fire damage, etc.
Immune to subdual damage. All damage that is not fire or acid is subdual. Think about it for a second.
One of my players didn't. His party couldn't afford the diamonds for a ressurection. He is now a frog.

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Reading all this warms my heart with the thought of how much I love 4E and how when I want a monster that's resistant to fire, cold and necrotic I can just write down "Resist fire 10, cold 10, necrotic 10" instead of having to juggle templates and LAs and all.

On the other hand there's a distinct advantage to a system where you can describe someone as a half-dragon half-ogre or a vampiric troll and everyone knows at least roughly what they're in for.
Shit I did that anyway in 3rd ed. But I just felt like playing with templates for a while.
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Immune to subdual damage. All damage that is not fire or acid is subdual. Think about it for a second.
One of my players didn't. His party couldn't afford the diamonds for a ressurection. He is now a frog.
What granted the subdual immunity? Vampire doesn't, half dragon doesn't, and sea trolls according to memory are just aquatic trolls, who take damage from non fire and acid and need to be in water to regenerate.
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