Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 890

IHateMakingNames · 11-15-2011, 10:07 PM

It's still John, but it's not pre-Scratch God-Tier John. That John should be somewhere crusing it with Jade in vague space-time 4th wall areas. That was the John produced by the Scratch.

POS Industries · 11-15-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BitVyper

I never realised anyone was leaning that way. I can't see any reason to think that at all, however that could totally be a heroic death if say, he could have stopped the meteor but didn't because he realised Jane would be on it and didn't want to accidentally hurt her.

But that doesn't change the fact that it's just a bad theory to begin with.

I've heard it mentioned a couple times, groaned, rolled my eyes, started to type up a rebuttal, but then decided it probably wasn't an idea that would gain that much steam anyway.

There's just so many things that would require everyone involved to act completely out of character for the sake of preserving the stable time loop that it just can't work.

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Originally Posted by IHateMakingNames

It's still John, but it's not pre-Scratch God-Tier John. That John should be somewhere crusing it with Jade in vague space-time 4th wall areas. That was the John produced by the Scratch.

I figure for the sake of easiness, it's best to simplify "John" as referring to John Egbert and "Poppop" to refer to John Crocker. Similarly, "Jane" is Jane Crocker, whereas "Nanna" is her pre-scratch incarnation, etc.

Aldurin · 11-15-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IHateMakingNames

That John should be somewhere crusing it with Jade in vague space-time 4th wall areas.

My worry is that in the LE flash we never saw the ship actually go through the other panel, time just froze and they stopped in between them. There is no actual confirmation yet that they went through to the scratched universe.

IHateMakingNames · 11-15-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aldurin

My worry is that in the LE flash we never saw the ship actually go through the other panel, time just froze and they stopped in between them. There is no actual confirmation yet that they went through to the scratched universe.

Somewhere in the tumblr Hussie said that the ship would crash through the mirror and be in the room for nanoseconds then crash through he other mirror, as part of his explanation as to why he hasn't really broken any 4th walls.

Also I'd place Hussie's room as a vague space-time 4th wall area.

POS Industries · 11-15-2011, 10:20 PM

That's because they haven't arrived yet from our perspective. We're still on a point in the new timeline preceding their entry.

However, we did receive confirmation from UU that they will be arriving in this universe, as will Rose and Dave, due to the line about this session having 8 players.

Dracorion · 11-15-2011, 10:52 PM

Wait, wait. If Jane's Sassacre text is the current one, who has the worn-out one we saw in the Act 6 intro?

Oh, probably did.

In any case, I doubt Opie the Troll is from pre-Scratch Alternia. He referred to four instances of universe, which most likely means pre-Scratch Alternia, post-Scratch Alternia, pre-Scratch Earth and post-Scratch Earth. Or he is pre-Scratch, and he's somehow privy to information that doesn't exist yet from his point of view in the timeline.

Arcanum · 11-15-2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dracorion

Wait, wait. If Jane's Sassacre text is the current one, who has the worn-out one we saw in the Act 6 intro?

Oh, probably did.

In any case, I doubt Opie the Troll is from pre-Scratch Alternia. He referred to four instances of universe, which most likely means pre-Scratch Alternia, post-Scratch Alternia, pre-Scratch Earth and post-Scratch Earth. Or he is pre-Scratch, and he's somehow privy to information that doesn't exist yet from his point of view in the timeline.

And what makes you so sure someone from pre-scratch Alternia wouldn't be able to have prophetic knowledge of events that would be set in motion by their session? In Homestuck.

Keep in mind that post-scratch Alternia is in it's own timeline, separate from pre-scratch Alternia.

POS Industries · 11-15-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcanum

And what makes you so sure someone from pre-scratch Alternia wouldn't be able to have prophetic knowledge of events that would be set in motion by their session? In Homestuck.

Well, for one thing, I doubt UU would be so chipper if she were aware of the inexorable failure of her own adventure, which she would have to be if she were already operating with full knowledge of the events of the following three sessions.

BitVyper · 11-15-2011, 11:23 PM

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which she would have to be if she were already operating with full knowledge of the events of the following three sessions.

Well I wouldn't say FULL knowledge, but enough at any rate. That said, it's entirely possible UU still expects to survive in the event of a scratch if he actually IS from the previous trollverse.

Really though, at this point the only universe we can be certain UU is not sending these messages from, is the post-scratch humanverse.

Arcanum · 11-15-2011, 11:27 PM

Hey I'm not saying full knowledge. We all know dream clouds only tell you what you need to know.

Also seems like either Mr. Strider's handle or initials are DS. I'm leaning towards initials since both Jane and Jake haven't bucked the GCAT trend. QUICK! Everyone start guessing four letter names that start with D! (I'm guessing it's gonna be Dave because that just seems like something that would happen).

Also also oh god Strider is quite possibly into horses. This could end horribly wrong given Hussie's previous work (warning, if you are not familiar with Hussie's previous work that link might scar you).

11-15-2011, 10:07 PM	#8891
IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	It's still John, but it's not pre-Scratch God-Tier John. That John should be somewhere crusing it with Jade in vague space-time 4th wall areas. That was the John produced by the Scratch. __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi

11-15-2011, 10:20 PM	#8895
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	That's because they haven't arrived yet from our perspective. We're still on a point in the new timeline preceding their entry. However, we did receive confirmation from UU that they will be arriving in this universe, as will Rose and Dave, due to the line about this session having 8 players. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

11-15-2011, 10:52 PM	#8896
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Wait, wait. If Jane's Sassacre text is the current one, who has the worn-out one we saw in the Act 6 intro? Oh, probably did. In any case, I doubt Opie the Troll is from pre-Scratch Alternia. He referred to four instances of universe, which most likely means pre-Scratch Alternia, post-Scratch Alternia, pre-Scratch Earth and post-Scratch Earth. Or he is pre-Scratch, and he's somehow privy to information that doesn't exist yet from his point of view in the timeline. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

11-15-2011, 11:27 PM	#8900
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Hey I'm not saying full knowledge. We all know dream clouds only tell you what you need to know. Also seems like either Mr. Strider's handle or initials are DS. I'm leaning towards initials since both Jane and Jake haven't bucked the GCAT trend. QUICK! Everyone start guessing four letter names that start with D! (I'm guessing it's gonna be Dave because that just seems like something that would happen). Also also oh god Strider is quite possibly into horses. This could end horribly wrong given Hussie's previous work (warning, if you are not familiar with Hussie's previous work that link might scar you).