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Unread 10-27-2006, 08:34 PM   #81
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That I find perfectly acceptable as well.
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Unread 10-27-2006, 09:11 PM   #82
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As to the blight issue, have you even read mythology?

Hera and Athena loses a beauty contest to Aphrodite jugeded by Paris prince of Troy. They help the greeks loot and pillage Troy.

Poseidon loses out to Athena in a gift giving contest to see who the Athenians name their city after. He causes an earth quake.

Loki and Odin force the king of the dwarves to give them all his gold, magic helm, and magic ring as ransom.

the celtic heroes Gwydion and Gwydion rape their uncles servant after they doop him into going to war.

Moral of the story. European gods are dicks.

If you want to go back to that scene, fine. There I deleted my posts and made some changes.
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Unread 10-27-2006, 10:55 PM   #83
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Personally, I don't mind a high priestess dying. She didn't have a name and she was, regardless of her religious standing, a mortal being. When faced with a god's wrath, all one mortal can really do is put his head between his knees in preparation to kiss his ass good-bye. Yeah, Phrayce was there and probably could have protected her, but she doesn't know how the power of death works. There's not even a projectile of sorts to jump in the way of to save that life, which brings an odd thought: suppose their was a projectile formed and shot off when Mors wrote the priestess's name down and someone jumps in the way of it. That projectile doesn't have the jumper's name on it so when the projectile contacts him, does it kill him just the same, is rendered ineffective, or pass through like he didn't even get in the way?

Sorry, just silly thinking on my part. Whatever you guys wanna do is okay with me.
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Unread 10-28-2006, 04:25 AM   #84
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Unread 10-28-2006, 08:03 AM   #85
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Yeah, that would be my answer too.
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Unread 10-28-2006, 09:43 AM   #86
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Thanks for making the changes Squishy.

I've editted my post to fit in with this little re-jigging of events. Sorry about the delay, but it took some time to devise the right kind of dialogue. It's the last post I've made - #29 in the thread.

I was just checking about whether the high priestess dying was a problem with you or not AB. I have this deathly aversion to things that may set bad precedents. Although it appears that bit has been deleted anyway. We've got a few oddities in posts downstream of the changes, but most of them are minor.
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Unread 10-28-2006, 11:58 AM   #87
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I believe that takes care of all my editting. Just so no one wondering what Phrayce did differently has to go looking around page 3, here's the gist of it:

- Phrayce never left the meeting of the gods at Gibrah's place to go investigate Mors (who didn't show up at the high temple in Lesser Amazonia)
- The Angelbane sword and Crimson Valkyrie Plate armor either do not exist or have not made an appearance yet (haven't decided which) and Phrayce is not equipped with those.
- The Harvesting Crescent scythe is still in the possession of Prescenia.
- The Crimson Champions have not been introduced and neither has their Crimson Champion Commander, Karvyna.
- After cooling her jets and thinking things through at the meeting of the gods, Phrayce is no longer angry with Charok. In fact, Charok can probably toss Phrayce a cheesy pick-up line and win her right back over as though the undead and their blight was only a distant nightmare.

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Unread 10-29-2006, 09:33 AM   #88
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Hmmm, I can't help but think that Charok is seizing on bits of Tcharne's words other than the important bits.

For the purposes of her meeting him, she honestly doesn't care that much about what exactly his job is. The reasons she thinks he needs to be reigned in are more because he's acting erratically, seriously pissing off the other gods and seems to be (to her point of view) at least slightly delusional.

And yes, last chance means last chance. None of this dithering about with "Are you sure? Are you really sure?"
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Unread 10-29-2006, 05:59 PM   #89
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I have a problem with Charok trying to claim ownership over life.
I think that life is too much of an important thing for any god to have entire dominion over, plus it does trample on the toes of Phrayce's fertility aspect.
Considering that life is something intrinsict and important to all of the gods it is poor form to say that one god has power over it, death is fine - things die and theres ways around that. But life is an absolute that the gods need followers and creations to have.
Just on a little note, the turning of ends into more of a cycle is a little contradictory to its previous presentation and interpretations;
"You are the beginning, I am the end. One day this will all be mine, and I will put the chairs where they go, sweep the floors clean, put out the lights, and lock the doors"
If you take the interpretation of a cycle with that statement, then it isn't really very fair to assume that one god is going to inherit the entire world encompassing all its planes.
"As god of Ends I give life to end the prelife stage, and even without the powers of death I can take it away to end life"
I find that a little too much like sophistry. If you are going to give something up, even temporarily. Do it, don't use rhetoric to try and retain it, it just melts away the drama and frankly, it weakens the act itself.
I'm not trying to be confrontational or inflammatory I just wouldn't like to see any misunderstandings arising from this to threaten the health of this Roleplay as has happened in the past.

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Unread 10-29-2006, 07:59 PM   #90
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I'll have to admit my thoughts echo Lumaes' words.

A god of death has no more power over life than a god of night has power over day. There's absolutely nothing mentioning beginnings or life in Charok's outline or at all in previous actions. If such a duality in the god was desired, it should have been included from the start. A god of death can not grant life (I'm not including the general godly act of creating servants/races under this), at best they can offer a deferral of death.

It also contradicts how Charok has spoken before. He has spoken of final ends, never talking of cycles.

I'll also agree to the sophistry talk. If you've temporarily given up governing death, then you've temporarily given up governing of death.

At this juncture, it seems appropriate to note that Tcharne started reincarnating people when Charok was witholding his services.

And again Charok seems to be missing Tcharne's point. He's still not said a word of what exactly has prompted him to do what he has. Also, he's saying he's not answerable to Tcharne, only the other gods, when Tcharne is offering him a way to blunt the other gods' wrath.

Squishy, this offer is the path that does not involve deific smiting. If you choose to have Charok reject it, don't complain about the outcomes.
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