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[Forever Zero]

Man, this has progressed far in one day/night...

I have no clue how "Pure Bloods" came about, I always thought it was just applied to vampire elders or something, since the idea of vampires having children seems impossible for the stated reasons.

And I could easily see vampire hunters. You forget about mages IHMN, a few good pyromancers could roast a small army of vampires that tried to kill them, then other hunters could move in while their weak, so vampire hunters are very possible. Note, I said mages would be useful, but my guy won't be a vampire hunter, just a pyromancer.

Coffins because... they're dead? I'm not totally sure how it came about either, but since vampires are a sort of long term undead, while things like zombies and skeletons are usually just summoned as quick fighters or something. Unless you start including Liches, or wraiths... you know what, I'm just falling back on "I have no clue"...

And as for the board being anti-gay, I'm not pro- or anti-gay, I'm really just apathetic. I don't care what gays do, just don't bother me about it.

[IHateMakingNames]

150% damage isn't that great to roast a small army. And your taking what I said, then changing it (Small group meant like three people). The hunters would become hunted, and killed at the best time. Think ninja. Vampires wouldn't jump out when the hutners (If it is a larger group) are all together, but when one is going to get water or something.

And to me, vampires don't see Undead at all... No more then any other fantasy living race.

[Forever Zero]

I changed it because three people would be idiocy. If you are fighting vampires and think "Dur,3 vs a mansion chock full... we be good!", then your going to get munched. I imagine in this world, vampire hunters are in at least groups of say ten or so, and would have a few mages. In a straight up battle, the vampire hunters would win, but if they try to take the fight to the vamps on their land, then the unters would be toast. I was thinking two things with fire mages. Area of effect spells if vampires try to rush, and if an assault doesn't work, the mage can stand back and just burn down a whole building the vampires are in.

Also, Vampires are regarded as undead, because in most vampire myths I know of, the person that becomes a vampire needs to die or be dead, then they come back from death as a vampire...

[IHateMakingNames]

Usually when you see vampire hunter(s) it's between 1-5 people... And in their mansions/castles, at most there will be five vampires (Mentioed that they are everywhere, but in small numbers) Also, mage vampires? Not all vampires are just attack with melee (My guy is a psionic after all) Vampires are just improved humans with more weaknesses.

Now with all of your talk about fire, I'm tempted to remove shadow-form and replace it with Control Fire, making him basically immune to fire. (Though shadow-form makes him immune to, but he can't attack phsycially while in shadow form)

From what I know, to become a vampire you are biten. That really doesn't kill you..

This is only partly finished, so I'll get the rest up later.

Name: Greg Taylor
Age: 23
Occupation: none
Race: Gnome
Class: Primary: Inventor Secondary: Blacksmith
Skills: Can use tools and first aid supplies well
Weapons: Usually he uses his inventions to attack, but sometimes he uses his tools (i.e. wrench) as well.
Equipment: Work supplies carried in a tool case (Wrench, screwdriver, etc.) and first aid kit.
Appearance: Greg is a fairly average gnome. He is about 2'9". Like all gnomes he has long ears. He wears a pair of gauntlets that he crafted himself. Greg has spiked brown hair and small, beady eyes.
He is slightly insane and is as smart as a gnome can get.
Bio: Greg was a mine laborer until one day he escaped. He had always practiced his inventing skills but now he had no fear of anyone finding out. He started wandering the world to find materials to make his inventions, even though they didn't usually work.

[Forever Zero]

At even higher levels may turn fire-based spells back on the attacker

So a assume we start at either medium or low levels, so you wouldn't be turning back any fire attacks for a while. Also I assume there is some sort of control type check that would come into play if a medium level fire controller was going against a high level mage, because I could see the mage making more fire then could be handled by someone not skilled enough, and specifically a pyromancer has more skill with fire then the average mage, so I would think you would need to be at a superior level then the pyromancer in question to control their fire. Also, I see a HUGE conflict with an undead being able to control fire, their weakness, so I'll wait for krylo's call on that one, but it seems odd.

A mage vampire wouldn't seem to take into account all of the vampires powers since most of the improvments are to physical skills, but it is true, their are mage vampires. However, while a mage vampire is casting spells, they aren't charging you and trying to rip your throat out, so then it devolves into a standard mage battle.

And in many accounts, along with the vampire biting you and drinking your blood, you also need to drink the blood of the vampire somehow. Thus, all vampires in a "clan" are servents of another, except for the head of the clan who I would assume became a vampire not by being bitten, but by making a deal with the devil (Literally), and thus might be the "Pure Blood" vampire type. This is of course only including western vampire myth, but western vampire myths seem to be the most widely accepted in Fantasy universes, so I assume those would be the rules followed in the RP.

And one last note, enjoying your invisable log on status IHMN?

[IHateMakingNames]

Why would I want to turn the fire all the way around? Just turning it to the side or making it cold is good enough. The quote you used is just saying that if you're really good at it, you can use the fire to attacker your attacker (Which is stupid to do to a pyro). And fire is only one of their weaknesses, and a minor one at that.

And it is not a 1v1 fight. The Clan would not want vampire hunters, so they would send a small army to kill even just one vampire hunter. A dozen of the vampires will be casting spells, while rest are ripping your throats out. (This is with human vampires. A giant vampire would just crush you and your puny fire)

You don't need to drink the blood, but get it into your systems. Usually by the vampire injecting it's own blood into the target via their fangs.

I guess a vampire will just be like a Nymph (Expect there are males, and not every vampire is extremely attractive), since they can do every body function expect make reproductive cells (the sperm and the eggs). And they will be 'Undead' (Though they have very little undead qualities that some living races even have...)

Edit - Eh... Does nothing for me...

And we only have 6 people... Anyone else who may join (girl), I still need a slave... Ecurt is getting a slave master from Ren, so that position is not needed.

What the heck, I don't mind being a slave. If you don't want me to, then that's fine, too.

[IHateMakingNames]

1) You are not of the female persuasion

2) Why would a trophy slave be a small, ugly little gnome?

[Krylo]

Alright--Pyromancer vrs Vampire... one POWERFUL pyromancer could wipe out an army of vampires... you'll see what I mean when you see the kind of power some high ranking mages have. However... one powerful pyromancer could still be stopped by a vampire with powerful magic, preferably of the water sort. Really, it depends on the pyromancer and the vampire in a battle. Although, in a one on one the pyromancer is going to have an advantage, because they aren't weak against any magic physically... and the vampire's weak against their specialty.

As for the control fire psionic... well, if Anne Rice's vampires can have it innately (and they burn good too), why can't these ones learn it? They don't actually touch the fire, they just concentrate and gain control of it with their minds. However, it is true that there are checks. A weak fire controller won't be able to touch magic fire at all, a moderate one will only be able to handle some magic fire, etc. etc. The psion would have to be a little more powerful than the mage to completely stop or redirect an attack.

As for vampire hunters... I imagine they'd only survive as long as they could kill vampires without being seen by any surviving ones. I wouldn't doubt they'd exist though, particularily amongs the ranks of the pyromancers and paladins.

Sooo... I hope that clears that up.


As for guild race restrictions... like Ecurt said, just use common sense. If something is contrary to common sense and you want to do it, ask me first.

And Biran... you might want to add rudimentary healing magic or first aid as a skill... like it says in the technology area, gnomish inventions backfire about as often as they work. You don't HAVE to... but you're probably going to be causing a lot of harm to yourself over the course of the adventure.


And last order of business: I plan on starting this on Monday or Tuesday, depending on how things go.

Edit: FZ, are you going to be a member of the fire based magic clan, because if you are I'll whip up a description of what their guild 'hall' looks like.