Pokemon Umbral Theatre 1: Where All the Lurkers...Ah...Lurk - Page 9

Dracorion · 08-28-2010, 10:07 PM

And who says Sophia and Sam can't be bisexual?

Geminex · 08-28-2010, 10:11 PM

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And believe it, trying to hook up with Dinner is far too volatile a situation, even for a man as in-control as Pierce would like to believe he is.

Didn't I claim Dinner ages ago? I still insist on that, you know.

AB. Dinner. Mine. Harem immunity. NOW.

As for the extra accessory on Overblade level 3, I have a much better reason why it shouldn't be: Overblade 3 already gets double attack. It's already the strongest single level-up in the RP. I really don't think it needs to get even stronger. Make it level 4, and we can agree to have it slip back to 3 if we nerf double attack.

And Drac, gonna suggest the balancing once I suggest the improvements for the plan. It's all coming, I swear! Gimme one more chance, I'll change!

Dracorion · 08-28-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Gimme one more chance, I'll change!

You always say that!

And then I'm left alone, watching the kids while you're out gallivanting with your friends on your silly little pathetic plots to conquer the world!

Menarker · 08-28-2010, 10:20 PM

Ah. If Double Attack is going to stay as is, then I can stand the fourth accessory being at level 4 Overblade no problem. I would agree that having both on the same level would be too much.

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Didn't I claim Dinner ages ago? I still insist on that, you know.

AB. Dinner. Mine. Harem immunity. NOW.

See Gem? That's what I was moving for before. Not just trying to claim Lola (again) but also giving others the security of not having their prime romantic interest taken by someone else.

Dracorion · 08-28-2010, 10:22 PM

See, but that arrangement doesn't get me Lola just to spite Menarker.

Menarker · 08-28-2010, 10:43 PM

^^; The reasons why you would want to spite me in the first place is a mystery. Unless you just want me to assume you were trolling again.

Dracorion · 08-28-2010, 10:46 PM

I want to spite all of you.

Y'know, in the ass.

Astral Harmony · 08-29-2010, 01:08 AM

I thought we wanted to get rid of Double Attack and reduce the amount of Rage required to reuse accessories? I even put it in the document. 35 RPs required to do that stuff.

Menarker · 08-29-2010, 01:10 AM

Well, I wouldn't mind Double Attack.

Not one bit.

Geminex · 08-29-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

I thought we wanted to get rid of Double Attack and reduce the amount of Rage required to reuse accessories? I even put it in the document. 35 RPs required to do that stuff.

Oh, really? God, you people need to tell me these things. In that case, sure. Let the 4th accessory be Slayer level 3 if it really must. Though then again, level 3 is still stronger than 4, what with the stats boost. Leaving it at 4 would be preferable.
Look, Menarker, do you really need a fourth one? Really?

Kay, new rule. If there's anything you think I should definitely read and respond to (or, y'know, just know about), put it IN RED.
I'll read all the orange stuff certainly, and I'll probably skim the other stuff, but anything I should know? Red, please.

And I've reconsidered accessories.
The way it is now, we get one free use, and then every use costs 50. Is 35 rage now the standard cost, or the cost after the upgrade? Don't have time to check.
Anyway, how about this: We drop the rage cost by another 5-10 rage, but remove the "initial free use". Makes accessories more tactical, I think, and a bit more important in combat. Your thoughts, AB?

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I'm cool with that. So let's say that Renny hits level 15 with the plan I showed you before. Renny would end up with 3 Trainer Actions (6 level of trainer), 1 Pokebrid Action (Comes with the form) and 4 new accessories and an extra accessory slot (8 levels of slayer). Sounds pretty cool.

Waitwaitwait.
He wouldn't get the accessory slot, obviously! Just as he wouldn't be able to use both a pokebrid action and a trainer action in the same turn. He'd get to come up with new accessories, and he'd get to select 3 trainer actions and one pokebrid action, but he'd only be able to use the benefits of one of those every turn, obviously (otherwise he'd be getting more power because he invests in a larger variety of classes, and that'd be imbalanced, since for everyone to have equal strength, everyone else would have to go "variety" as well). And for Slayer, that translates into removing the accessory slot. That is acceptable, I hope?

Also, people, this is another reason I want everything to be self-customizable: It makes balancing way easier. No, stop laughing. Seriously. Because the class progression isn't balanced, the way AB has made it. It wouldn't be if I devoted a week to balancing it. If everyone gets 15 levels to invest, then the player's power will depend on the way they invest them. And like I said, this isn't supposed to be a competitive RP. I'm hoping I've made the point that it'll be most enjoyable if there's parity in strength. And if we want parity, equality, we're gonna have to nerf everyone separately anyway, since there's no way to set up the class progression in a way that makes every avenue, every specialization, have equal strength.

Or, y'know, we could just go straight to "nerf everyone separately". With a lot less work.

Now back to the other stuff...
DRAC'S TRAINER ACTIONS:
Combined attack seems fine.

Trainer attack...
Eeeeh. Not so sure. I mean, the concept is cool. I'm just uncertain whether you should get the Slayer probabilities...
Let's try it. If it gets abused, I reserve the right to call for a nerf.

Five-Star-Deluxe-Special: This one's interesting. Not sure about any of them, they either seem too weak or too strong.
How about this: One target, 20%. Only one target can be affected at a time. Getting damaged dispels effect. Can target pokemon that aren't on the field.

Mock and Willpower both seem cool.

Plan... is acceptable. I'm not sure if it'd have been wiser to focus fire a bit more, but very well.
Also, if we get all the kills that I hope we're gonna get, PsyRenny's Shadow Rush is gonna hurt. Hell, it's gonna hurt already, if AB's cruel enough to make it count all the units that already have fallen this battle. That's what? A dozen?
Are you lookin forward to getting hit a dozen types? Hey, Drac, how would you like to have your pokemon get knocked out by a psychic embodiment of Renny, of all things? Not much? Me neither. But I fear that that may be what we've got coming if we go through with this.

Also, gonna nerf CC&C and buff Dark Ambition after this battle.

08-28-2010, 10:07 PM	#81
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	And who says Sophia and Sam can't be bisexual? __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

08-28-2010, 10:22 PM	#85
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	See, but that arrangement doesn't get me Lola just to spite Menarker. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

08-28-2010, 10:43 PM	#86
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	^^; The reasons why you would want to spite me in the first place is a mystery. Unless you just want me to assume you were trolling again. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

08-28-2010, 10:46 PM	#87
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	I want to spite all of you. Y'know, in the ass. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

08-29-2010, 01:10 AM	#89
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Well, I wouldn't mind Double Attack. Not one bit. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

08-29-2010, 01:08 AM	#88
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	I thought we wanted to get rid of Double Attack and reduce the amount of Rage required to reuse accessories? I even put it in the document. 35 RPs required to do that stuff.