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Unread 01-15-2013, 05:32 PM   #81
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Reading is for nerds though
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Unread 01-15-2013, 05:41 PM   #82
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I don't have an explanation obviously. But what I do have is somewhere to look for explanations- midichlorian counts are linked to force powers so that is the place to look for a force mechanism. The jedi can't explain force ghosts either and they've had thousands of years of trying.
It's like I can't explain how gravity works right now but that don't mean I look to the bible for an explanation

E: I only take movies as canon, EU don't count. Because fuck the EU
Well, that's like saying that meat creates maggots when it's left out for awhile, like people believed in the dark ages.

The meat is not the cause of the maggots, but the maggots (Or the things that lay them) are drawn to the meat.

Force powers are the rotting meat, and midiclorians are maggots, here.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 05:43 PM   #83
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You realise saying "it's the force" isn't actually an explanation.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 06:00 PM   #85
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The entirety of smarty's education stems from things he heard from a bloke in the pub.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 06:02 PM   #86
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Around the 6th season of power rangers they ran out of ideas so they just ran science lessons instead.
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You realise saying "it's the force" isn't actually an explanation.
Do we have any proof that they did research into what midichlorians are? Did their paper get peer reviewed? I mean, speaking critically, they were essentially living in a super high-tech dark age. I think it's fair to say that they just saw midichlorians and said, "THESE ARE THE FORCE!", and stopped their inquiries there.
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I think the only utopian science fiction world on any level I can think of is Future Earth in Star Trek, which Roddenberry considered utopian because of its gender and racial equality (and because the female officers were required to wear skirts to accentuate their gams).

Obviously the universe at large was dystopian, though.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 06:22 PM   #89
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Do we have any proof that they did research into what midichlorians are? Did their paper get peer reviewed? I mean, speaking critically, they were essentially living in a super high-tech dark age. I think it's fair to say that they just saw midichlorians and said, "THESE ARE THE FORCE!", and stopped their inquiries there.
I have evidence that concentration of these biological cells allows the manifestations of "force powers".
What evidence is there that you have to be stoic? That you cannot have emotion? That you cannot chop down people you find in a magic tree because it will turn out to be yourself?
I have evidence that "the force" is a mere biological phenomenon which has been monopolised and perverted with tacked on religious mumbo-jumbo. Which is far mroe evidence than the jedi have that say hates leads to the dark side.

You guys are like creationists- not being able to explain everything doesn't mean your method of inquiry is worthless.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 06:51 PM   #90
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Because people want to keep power to themselves, and the easiest way is obfuscating how it works so that people won't try to develop it themselves, duh.
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