My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia

[Verifiedz]

I'm voting NIKOSE for his lies. he said a lot of fake stuff about snake and now that we know he can lie how do we know he isnt lying about being a townie?

[Sifright]

Also another reason for me to be suspicious of RPGdemon he has been for killing off inactives in the earlier part of the thread all the wikis i've read conclude that this is a bad idea as inactives tend to be town power roles trying not to get lynched or draw attention to the mafia for night actions.

[rpgdemon]

Well, no. The reason that I'm having this problem with you all started back with your proposed plan to figure out if you're town or not, which was set up so that it could only flag a false townie, which is something that helps the scum, and how you didn't see what I meant, no matter how many times I tried to tell you.

Also, the search button is being broken for me right now, but could someone please tell me who it was who I called out on making the gamblers fallacy, in terms of who's scum this game versus last? Since I remember that it was someone who was scum last game, and that's a thing that we have to go on, as well, if they're still around. Ask questions, and such, about that.

[Sifright]

How does flagging a false townie via PO help scum explain that, bareing in mind that the PO will reveal his information at some point or he is completely and utterly frigging useless, tbh I'd go with today being the day to do it because the next day there is a high chance he will be dead.

[Gregness]

Originally Posted by IHateMakingNames

*snip*

Unvote: Ryanderman
Vote: rpgdemon

HoS: Ryanderman
HoS: Nikose
HoS: gregness

I know this might be tough given your... restrictions, but that's the second time you've sent a HoS my way and I'm curious why.

One of the chief arguments people have used to convince themselves that IHMN is town is something along the lines of "no one would put themselves through all that on purpose." Think about it though, doesn't that make it the perfect facade? Even if IHMN is telling the truth about derpy, she doesn't have to be town aligned. Derpy seems like a decent enough candidate to be the SK.

Now, the problem with that lies in the flavor text of the night kills. How much can we rely on it for information? This is my first Mafia game, so I don't know how much stock we can usually put in it. Could it be that even IF the flavor text IS technically accurate in that it's a cockatrice making the kills, could the cockatrice be somepony's pet?

I haven't convinced myself of this yet, but I think we should consider these sorts of things so that we can avoid any more screwups like we've had the first two days. Basically, I want to make sure we cover our bases.

HoS: IHMN
HoS: Nikose


HoS on Nikose because he's thrown out half a dozen more flippant contradictions than I'm comfortable with.

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by Sifright

Also another reason for me to be suspicious of RPGdemon he has been for killing off inactives in the earlier part of the thread all the wikis i've read conclude that this is a bad idea as inactives tend to be town power roles trying not to get lynched or draw attention to the mafia for night actions.

I actually wasn't. I said that it doesn't actively hurt the town, as they were essentially dead already, and we might hit a scum trying to hide. I also said it was almost the same as a no vote, because it was hitting someone who was essentially dead already, which hurts the town, because a no-vote is the worst thing we could do, as was told to me last game. What I supported was lynching an inactive only if we had nothing else to go off of, day 1, as it was the course of action that would lead to minimal damage if we were wrong.

This is my second game, and I haven't read any wikis on what's a strategy that should be avoided. I was making my statement based on what seemed logically sound, especially since I was saying it about the inactives who hadn't logged in or posted since the game started, and who thus had no idea what their role was. I also said this much, back then.

Since they hadn't logged in or seen their roles since the game started, it was impossible that they'd be townies trying to hide, and instead were just people who aren't playing the game. In that case, killing them would help if we hit scum, and minimize damage if we didn't, but it would equate to a no-vote if we hit a townie. That's why I said that it was a good idea, only if we had no leads.

See how easy it is to mix up what people said, and make a mistake about information? You said yourself, we ought to be completely sure of what we say. I was doing that as best I can, with quotes to back myself up on anything that I said. You haven't quoted me once, and went with a poorly remembered idea of what was going on, attributing what people have said who were around me while I was talking, with what I said.

Someone said either this game or last that it's a tried and true scum tactic to pin ideas of other people on active players, since people will just remember the active player posting a lot when the idea was discussed, and assume it has to be true. I'm not saying that you're doing this, but you really ought to go back and look at what I said again.

[Sifright]

Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

Alduin was culted night 0.

RPG is serial Killer.

Snake is probably going to die by mafia kill night one.

Bob the merc is Cult leader.

Also Nikose said he claimed that Snake was SK early on. He didn't another lie.

[Sifright]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

I actually wasn't. I said that it doesn't actively hurt the town, as they were essentially dead already, and we might hit a scum trying to hide. I also said it was almost the same as a no vote, because it was hitting someone who was essentially dead already, which hurts the town, because a no-vote is the worst thing we could do, as was told to me last game. What I supported was lynching an inactive only if we had nothing else to go off of, day 1, as it was the course of action that would lead to minimal damage if we were wrong.

This is my second game, and I haven't read any wikis on what's a strategy that should be avoided. I was making my statement based on what seemed logically sound, especially since I was saying it about the inactives who hadn't logged in or posted since the game started, and who thus had no idea what their role was. I also said this much, back then.

Since they hadn't logged in or seen their roles since the game started, it was impossible that they'd be townies trying to hide, and instead were just people who aren't playing the game. In that case, killing them would help if we hit scum, and minimize damage if we didn't, but it would equate to a no-vote if we hit a townie. That's why I said that it was a good idea, only if we had no leads.

See how easy it is to mix up what people said, and make a mistake about information? You said yourself, we ought to be completely sure of what we say. I was doing that as best I can, with quotes to back myself up on anything that I said. You haven't quoted me once, and went with a poorly remembered idea of what was going on, attributing what people have said who were around me while I was talking, with what I said.

Someone said either this game or last that it's a tried and true scum tactic to pin ideas of other people on active players, since people will just remember the active player posting a lot when the idea was discussed, and assume it has to be true. I'm not saying that you're doing this, but you really ought to go back and look at what I said again.

You're quite right that I need to be careful of it just like I warned you in my defense you guys are only active at ungodly hours in the morning for me but i'm going to quote your post if i find it again

[Aldurin]

Originally Posted by Sifright

I'd say lets just all vote for who ever aldurin votes for because at least we know he won't intentionally vote for townies, but does any one trust him to make the correct decision?

Designating me the leader of the lynch mob is a stupid idea, and we're all dumber for reading that. My decisions are based on other people's decisions, so you can't just designate me the main force in whatever direction I take.

[Oron]

I spent a little bit of time catching up when I should be studying for my Organic Chemistry exam tomorrow. That is a really bad idea.

Nikose seems to get progressively crazier each day. Now he's claiming to be the PO? I'unno about that. His day one post is hard to go by. Either he's playing to hide his role rather well, surprisingly, or he got a lucky guess in there. Hard to tell and I don't have the time to think about it right now.

I read about two posts per page but I think rpgdemon had some good points for this day so far (given the couple of posts I did spend at least a little time reading).

Not much else to go on for this day so far and I've really got to study. I'll come back to this tomorrow for a bit and actually dedicate some time thinking things over.