One Man's Chronicle Into Madness

Seil · 11-25-2009, 09:29 PM

We've had a few Twilight bashing threads, but not a chronicle. Though Sarah Connor had a chronicle, and look where that got her.

I have a young, teenage sister. Being a girl, and also being between the ages of eleven to twenty-nine, she has a thing for the strung-out stink bomb known as Robert Pattinson - or, as many others (dreamily) refer to him, "Edward."

After numerous... "observations" and "critiques," I was told by the folks that I wasn't allowed to do so until I actually read the book. So I bought it today. The first few pages are sort of what I expected - sort of middle-school level writing, too over descriptive without detailing anything of importance.

So I thought I'd go by every few chapters and we can talk, ending with a "strongly worded" review that will give me a few jibes to let loose 'round Christmas break when I head home. Who's with me?

(If the mods aren't with me, and feel that Twilight doesn't warrant another thread, feel free to close this.)

Magus · 11-26-2009, 01:29 AM

I'd grab my sister's copy and join with you in this journey but...sheesh, man, are you a masochist or something? It can't be worth it!

Masked Jedi · 11-26-2009, 01:41 AM

Are you gonna tell us what your reading plan is so we can join in? Because I kinda feel like testing the depths of my tolerance.

Premmy · 11-26-2009, 02:39 AM

Might be fun, I'd be in for it, as my mother happened upon two of the books at a yard sale and decided to get them "for me" (I try to avoid talking to her much)

Professor Smarmiarty · 11-26-2009, 02:49 AM

I don't understand the continual shelling of Twilight. Ok some people like a book you don't like. I guarantee I can find someone who would say all the same things you say about Twilight about whatever your favourite book is.

Premmy · 11-26-2009, 02:57 AM

I do beleive it's just generally horrible, but I'll see.

Amake · 11-26-2009, 04:39 AM

"The private sexual fantasies and unconscious propaganda of a dangerously religious woman, seeking an outlet for her feelings of frustration and bitterness about marrying too young; feelings she transparently has no understanding of herself. Oh, and the writing stinks on every level from plot to characterization to basic grasp pf English and even spelling. The fact that it's been bought by professional publishers feels like an insult to aspiring writers everywhere, let alone that people choose to read it."

Yeah, you might be able to say that about any given book. I don't know if it would be true though.

I personally have no problem with Twilight's fans, at least not since their attempted founding of a religion based on 58 badly spelled words of scripture seems to have gone nowhere. It's just a truly, madly, deeply hilarious set of books to make fun of.

Seil · 11-26-2009, 05:09 AM

Alright, it's 2:05 in the AM as I'm posting this (check the timestap, it should be your timezone I think?) so I guess since I can head to the coffee shop in town tomorrow after I run a few errands and just chill out for a bit, I'll do five chapters and post them at five pee-em tomorrow. Anyone who wants to join me, go for it.

Kim · 11-26-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

I don't understand the continual shelling of Twilight. Ok some people like a book you don't like. I guarantee I can find someone who would say all the same things you say about Twilight about whatever your favourite book is.

If you consider the quality of entertainment media to be nothing more than personal taste, they are as welcome to it as anyone else. People who hate it are as free to be as zealous about their hatred as the fans are about their love.

However, personally, stuff like Twilight being popular upsets me as it's a symptom of a larger problem, the larger problem being that too many damn people have no taste, at least from my perspective. I personally believe that the quality of things can be objectively gauged, at least to a certain degree, and those things which I consider to be lacking in quality and value becoming more popular than other, better things is incredibly frustrating to me.

I don't really think we need another thread for it, because at this point it's beating a dead horse. The people who hate Twilight will hate Twilight and the people who love it will love it. No side will ever give in to the other, regardless of any valid argument either makes.

Professor Smarmiarty · 11-26-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Invisible Queen

"The private sexual fantasies and unconscious propaganda of a dangerously religious woman, seeking an outlet for her feelings of frustration and bitterness about marrying too young; feelings she transparently has no understanding of herself. Oh, and the writing stinks on every level from plot to characterization to basic grasp pf English and even spelling. The fact that it's been bought by professional publishers feels like an insult to aspiring writers everywhere, let alone that people choose to read it."

Yeah, you might be able to say that about any given book. I don't know if it would be true though.

I personally have no problem with Twilight's fans, at least not since their attempted founding of a religion based on 58 badly spelled words of scripture seems to have gone nowhere. It's just a truly, madly, deeply hilarious set of books to make fun of.

I could say things like that about damn near every book. If you want to name your favourite book I am sure I can tear it apart in a similar way.

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Originally Posted by NonCon

If you consider the quality of entertainment media to be nothing more than personal taste, they are as welcome to it as anyone else. People who hate it are as free to be as zealous about their hatred as the fans are about their love.

However, personally, stuff like Twilight being popular upsets me as it's a symptom of a larger problem, the larger problem being that too many damn people have no taste, at least from my perspective. I personally believe that the quality of things can be objectively gauged, at least to a certain degree, and those things which I consider to be lacking in quality and value becoming more popular than other, better things is incredibly frustrating to me.

I don't really think we need another thread for it, because at this point it's beating a dead horse. The people who hate Twilight will hate Twilight and the people who love it will love it. No side will ever give in to the other, regardless of any valid argument either makes.

That's pretty much it. I probably hate the books you read and consider them crap for same reasons you consider Twilight crap. I'm not going to go around making threads bashing your tastes though, because what is the point. They are happy reading their books, all the people who bash it are doing is trying to make themselves feel superior and better.
As for the poularity book thing this has been in existence for ever. I can't think of any books that are now considered to be great that were best-sellers in their time. Bitching about Twilight isn't going to change anything.

TLDR version: Every book sucks. Let people read what makes them happy.

11-25-2009, 09:29 PM	#1
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	One Man's Chronicle Into Madness We've had a few Twilight bashing threads, but not a chronicle. Though Sarah Connor had a chronicle, and look where that got her. I have a young, teenage sister. Being a girl, and also being between the ages of eleven to twenty-nine, she has a thing for the strung-out stink bomb known as Robert Pattinson - or, as many others (dreamily) refer to him, "Edward." After numerous... "observations" and "critiques," I was told by the folks that I wasn't allowed to do so until I actually read the book. So I bought it today. The first few pages are sort of what I expected - sort of middle-school level writing, too over descriptive without detailing anything of importance. So I thought I'd go by every few chapters and we can talk, ending with a "strongly worded" review that will give me a few jibes to let loose 'round Christmas break when I head home. Who's with me? (If the mods aren't with me, and feel that Twilight doesn't warrant another thread, feel free to close this.)

11-26-2009, 01:29 AM	#2
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I'd grab my sister's copy and join with you in this journey but...sheesh, man, are you a masochist or something? It can't be worth it! __________________ The Valiant Review

11-26-2009, 02:39 AM	#4
Premmy Stop the hate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a nice web on fifty first street Posts: 4,466	Might be fun, I'd be in for it, as my mother happened upon two of the books at a yard sale and decided to get them "for me" (I try to avoid talking to her much) __________________ Drank

11-26-2009, 02:57 AM	#6
Premmy Stop the hate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a nice web on fifty first street Posts: 4,466	I do beleive it's just generally horrible, but I'll see. __________________ Drank

11-26-2009, 04:39 AM	#7
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	"The private sexual fantasies and unconscious propaganda of a dangerously religious woman, seeking an outlet for her feelings of frustration and bitterness about marrying too young; feelings she transparently has no understanding of herself. Oh, and the writing stinks on every level from plot to characterization to basic grasp pf English and even spelling. The fact that it's been bought by professional publishers feels like an insult to aspiring writers everywhere, let alone that people choose to read it." Yeah, you might be able to say that about any given book. I don't know if it would be true though. I personally have no problem with Twilight's fans, at least not since their attempted founding of a religion based on 58 badly spelled words of scripture seems to have gone nowhere. It's just a truly, madly, deeply hilarious set of books to make fun of. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed Last edited by Amake; 11-26-2009 at 04:42 AM.

11-26-2009, 02:49 AM	#5
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	I don't understand the continual shelling of Twilight. Ok some people like a book you don't like. I guarantee I can find someone who would say all the same things you say about Twilight about whatever your favourite book is.

11-26-2009, 05:09 AM	#8
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	Alright, it's 2:05 in the AM as I'm posting this (check the timestap, it should be your timezone I think?) so I guess since I can head to the coffee shop in town tomorrow after I run a few errands and just chill out for a bit, I'll do five chapters and post them at five pee-em tomorrow. Anyone who wants to join me, go for it.